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Last revised - February, 2000 How to use: In the body of the document, you can just skip to the next ----------- question by having your software SEARCH for the next occurrence of "@Q" Disclaimers: The authors of information on hard-to-find items are unable ------------ to provide you with any more information than is provided here on locating those items. Particularly where unauthorized recordings are concerned, do not write anyone whose name is listed here as an author and ask if they can help you get your hands on such-and-such a recording. Please realize that when you do so, they are being asked by a perfect stranger to give advice in writing on how to carry out an illegal act. The authors of this document make no guarantees about the quality of workmanship or service you will get from patronizing a publisher, CD house, or magazine listed here. Inclusion of a vendor's name does not imply an endorsement or recommendation. With respect to official releases, the exact versions of recordings available and in print at any point in time from the Stones' catalogue may suddenly change, without the record companies bothering to let us know personally, rendering the current document obsolete. As with any purchase, it is wise to confirm with the seller exactly what it is you are buying. Authors: -------- For part II (Live and Unreleased recordings), we thank D.H. ("Mr. X.") For part III (the bibliography), we thank Stephen Carter (e-address below). For part IV (EPs and albums), we thank Anthony Rzepela (e-address below). Contributors to Part I of the Rolling Stones FAQ list are: Jens Backlund (jens.backlund@abo.fi) Frank Blau Jon Brode (also the major inspiration) Stephen D. Carter (steve@carters.u-net.com) (cule@ee.manitoba.ca) Dave Heller Charles Papworth Ken Pennington (hfin011@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu) Steve Portigal (stevep@rahul.net) Dan Ream (dream@gems.vcu.edu) Anthony J. Rzepela (rzepelaa@netaxs.com) Bjornulf Vik (iorr@arena.no) We'd also like to thank the fine-tooth brigade: our FAQ helpers/ proofreaders/fact-checkers: Todd Furesz (furesz@kids.wustl.edu) Jim Henning Russell T. Haines of Severe Tire damage (rhaines@dnai.com) Michael Honig (honey@mwald5.chemie.uni-mainz.de) Princess Margaret (PrincssMxx@aol.com) Mark C. Walters (mark@pluto.logica.co.uk) Finally, we would like to thank the Rolling Stones, for....whatever. Maintenance: Maintenance on parts one, three, and four are carried ------------ out by Anthony J. Rzepela. Discussion/disagreements concerning any of all four parts should take place on the mailing list 'Undercover'. Summary of questions: --------------------- 1. Who ARE the Stones - what is the band lineup/history? 2. Hey! Do they get email??? 3. What Stones-specific online resources are there? 4. Where can I get online lyrics/chords/tabulature/GIFs? 5. Where can I get an online discography? 6. Hey! Why isn't this discography complete? 7. Well, where *can* I get a complete one? 8. What about CDs? What do I need for a complete set? How do they sound??? 9. Can you at *least* tell me about the solo records???? 10. Where can I get bootlegs? 11. Which bootlegs are best? Which will have my favorite song? 12. How can I get that Keith sound in the comfort of my own home? 13. Wouldn't it be neat if there were a Stones "museum"? 14. I'm a novice. Can you recommend the best... a. albums b. movies c. books d. home videos e. fanzines 15. What is/who are a. "Nanker Phelge" b. "The Glimmer Twins" c. "Rock and Roll Circus" d. "Altamont" e. "Cocksucker Blues" 16. Gossip a. How many times have they been arrested? b. How many times have they been married? c. Will the band break up? d. Are they going to tour? e. Do you think this is the last time, really? f. How old ARE they? 17. What gives with: a. that tongue logo all over the place b. cheese 18. Myths & legends: a. Did Keith really get his blood changed? b. Do they worship satan? c. Is Paul dead? Sources used in this FAQ list: ------------------------------ (full publication information on these books can be found in part three of the FAQ list, The Bibliography From Hell) The primary resources used for fact-checking this part of the document are: Aeppli, Felix - "The Rolling Stones 1962-1995: the Ultimate Guide" Dalton, David - "The Rolling Stones - The First Twenty Years" Giuliano, Geoffrey - "The Rolling Stones Album" Wyman, Bill - "Stone Alone" Weiner, Sue & Lisa Howard - "The Rolling Stones A to Z" ========================================================================== Answers: @Q1. Who ARE the Stones - what is the band lineup/history? The first Rolling Stones long-playing album was released in 1964, to enough advance excitement to encourage the band's management to release it with only a portrait of the band on the front. Once you understand that, all the rest really just falls into place. Originally comprised of Mick Jagger (vocals), Brian Jones (gtr), Keith Richards (gtr), Ian Stewart (piano), Charlie Watts (drums), and Bill Wyman (bass), Ian Stewart was 'demoted' by de facto manager Andrew Loog Oldham by the time of their first album release, because he did not look the part of a Rolling Stone. Although Ian did not appear in group photographs or get listed in band personnel information, he played, credited, on records and in concert with the Stones up until his death in 1985. The first 'real' personnel change took place with the dismissal of Brian Jones in 1969, who died several weeks later. Before his death, his slot was filled by a young guitarist named Mick Taylor, who had been in John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, and who stayed with the Stones until December 1974. Ron Wood, already a star from his work with Rod Stewart and the Faces, joined the Rolling Stones as a 'special guest' in 1975 for their US tour and became a non-guest by the end of the year. In 1993, bassist Bill Wyman, then 56, officially quit after years of rumours and speculation, and Ron became a full and equal partner soon after. As of this writing, no permanent replacement has been announced for Mr. Wyman, although Daryl Jones, ex- of Miles Davis, Peter Gabriel, Sting, Madonna and other high-profile professional gigs, has played on all Stones concerts from the start of the 1994/95 'Voodoo Lounge' tour through the last Summer 1999 dates on the "No Security" tour. @Q2. Hey! Do you think they read email??? The Stones in the Internet Age is a long strange trip. The short answer is that if they do have email addresses, no one has seen fit to share them with the world at large. Nevertheless, the Stones are not Luddites and have gradually warmed to the promotional and interactive aspects of the Internet. As part of promotion for the "Voodoo Lounge" tour, Mick and Keith each participated separately in "online" Q&A sessions, but these very first ones were more batch than online, with questions submitted in advance by online service users, then to the band at once by representatives, after accumulating them. Things have improved since then. Keith's second online Q&A session took place live as the Stones were about to take the stage in Oakland, California in 1994, all four Stones had individual chats take place on AOL during the "Bridges To Babylon" tour, and the Stones have often tried to create special interactive efforts, sometimes (unfortunately) at the "bleeding edge" of technology. Early in their 1994 tour, a five-song portion of a Texas concert was put out 'live on the Internet', and was widely hyped as the first concert ever treated that way. In reality, the band "Severe Tire Damage" holds the honor, beating the Stones to the punch by more than a year, doing a show online in June of 1993. This was well before the Stones even announced their 1994 tour, let alone any special events connected with it. Before the US tour ended that December, the Stones made some of the films used in their first-ever CD-ROM. In December 1995 Jagger, who had already done online Q&As for AOL and Prodigy, went live on a CompuServe forum which was supposed to demonstrate the latest in Internet-ready interactivity applications (live video, for example). In it, Jagger cited his lurking on unnamed Internet forums devoted to the Stones as one source for 1995 set list suggestions. (He could have been referring to the Usenet news group alt.rock-n-roll.stones, or the list 'Undercover', or traffic from the officially sanctioned chat areas of commercial online services. No one knows for sure, but all of these were active at the time.) An article in the February 1997 issue of "AV Video & Multimedia Producer" claims that the first official Stones web site (the now static and occasionally still-available http://www.stones.com) was put together with a lot of input from the Stones "people" and that Jagger personally logged in while on the road with the Voodoo Lounge tour to check on its progress and have final approval. The third official web site released on the Stones behalf was a great leap forward. In addition to offering online sales of souvenir merchandise, timely news updates, concert ticket contests, and "Bridges To Babylon" tour setlists, the site offered users the chance to 'vote' for a song from a nominated list they'd like to hear played at the next B2B show. There was a point about one-third of the way into almost every B2B show where the top vote-getter was played by the band. URL: http://www.the-rolling-stones.com Some of that site's content was incorporated into the 1999 "No Security" site (http://www.therollingstones.com), which is the band's current official Web site. An enterprising soul managed to grab the domain "the-rollingstones.com" for a fan site, but that is not an official entity. In November of 1997, it was announced that Mick Jagger had formed a multimedia company, "Jagged Internetworks", whose sole purpose seems to be holding the rights to netcasts of cricket matches. The URL (http://www-uk.cricket.org/link_to_database/SUPPORT/JAGGED/) has a brief note from jagger introducing the site and its purpose. As for the email question, there are no publicly known email addresses for the Stones' members, and we suspect that were some to come to light, they'd quickly be changed and rendered useless. A number of vendors along the way have claimed at one time or another to manage email accounts for band personnel, to the point of publicly announcing addresses. There was never any reasonable indication that this was anything but hype, however. @Q3. What Stones-specific online resources are there? Lists and newsgroups The longest-running Stones-related Internet resource is 'Undercover', a true mailing list for Stones discussion, established in 1992, which is also available in digest form. Subscription requests should be sent to the majordomo server at majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com and they MUST be of one of the four following forms: SUBSCRIBE UNDERCOVER [your email addeess] UNSUBSCRIBE UNDERCOVER [your email addeess] SUBSCRIBE UNDERCOVER-DIGEST [your email addeess] UNSUBSCRIBE UNDERCOVER-DIGEST [your email addeess] There is also a USENET newsgroup (news:alt.rock-n-roll.stones) dedicated to the Stones, a number of privately run Web chat areas, and a busy message area on AOL. Except for the brief time that 'Stonesworld' was associated with the Stones, and ran a Web message board, there was never any online forum which enjoyed "official" affiliation with the band. Here are some other USENET newsgroups which could conceivably hold some online Rolling Stones content: alt.rock-n-roll alt.rock-n-roll.classic The World-Wide-Web The current official WWW site for the Rolling Stones is http://www.therollingstones.com The preceding official WWW site for the Rolling Stones was http://www.stonesworld.com Their first official World-Wide-Web site was established in 1994 at the beginning of the Voodoo Lounge tour, and is at http://www.stones.com ; the "/retro" section still houses live audio and video from the 1994 US tour, photographs taken by Ron Wood, and selected other goodies, including a band history authored by Stones expert and former fanzine publisher Bill German. Mr. German's former official fanzine ("Beggar's Banquet") ceased pulp-publication and is now on the Web at: http://www.beggarsbanquetonline.com/ Former Stones have sites, too. Gary Paranzino's site, dedicated to former Stone Mick Taylor (www.micktaylor.com, nee http://www.paranzino.com/), hosts exclusive audio, a messaging area, the Sw-5 mailing list, an exhaustively researched career history, and is just an all around wet dream for Taylor fans. It is also used for selling Mick Taylor CDs, which is as official as it gets. Bill Wyman's "Sticky Fingers" restaurant has a site at http://www.stickyfingers.co.uk/ with a strong Stones-history flavor. For an up-to-date list of hypertext links guiding you to currently operating Stones-related Web offerings, see the page http://www.netaxs.com/~rzepelaa/undercover/morestuf.html This is a constantly updated sheet of pointers to others' Stones' resources: FTP sites, guitar tab archives, and other Web sites run by individuals, such as John A Artukovich's "FingerPrint File" (http://www.primenet.com/~united86/) dedicated to the history of live Rolling Stones recordings, and The home page for the 'Undercover' list http://www.netaxs.com/~rzepelaa/undercover has recently mailed digests, selected Stones' lyrics, 1995 and 1997 tour reviews, databases covering Guest Appearances by Stones' personnel on others' recordings, lists of cover versions of Stones' songs, and more. FTP The Rolling Stones were just one music act with lyrics, pictures and more archived at what was once 'THE' Internet music-related FTP site, The University of Wisonsin-Parkside. We say 'were' because as of 1996, this long-overwhelmed site stopped offering service. And in general, it looks like the days of huge archives of lyrics have passed, due to legal pressures from publishers, who tend to frown on their property being offered for free. Other specific types of resources are detailed in some of the following questions. @Q4: Where can I get online chords/tablature? The legal status of guitar tablature has recently come into question. You can always find the latest updates on who is still brave enough to carry guitar tab repositories for your fetching pleasure by using OLGA (The On-Line Guitar Archive) at http://www.olga.net/ If you have access to USENET news, look at the groups rec.music.makers.guitar.tablature and the more raucous and free-wheeling alt.guitar.tab for guitar tablature and breaking news on availability. People will often post chords or tablature to popular songs (including Stones' songs) on these groups. If you have chords and/or tab for a song, feel free to post it to those groups. Due to their large size and limited interest, it is usually not appropriate to post tabs to a general-interest mailing list such as Undercover (although it's been done before, that doesn't mean it's appropriate). If you are posting Stones tablature on USENET, perhaps the best solution is to post it to the newsgroups and just indicate on Undercover that you have done so. You should be willing to offer to mail it to anyone who doesn't have news access. @Q5. Where can I get an online discography? Part IV of this document has a listing which includes all Rolling Stones EPs and LPs released in the US and UK, excluding out-of-print compilations. Original release dates, producer, song lists, and maybe a biased comment or two, are added. A section of it lists tracks which cannot be found on CDs as of the time of this writing. But just about every book and/or website on the Stones has discographies of varying depth and ambition. @Q6. Hey! Why isn't this discography complete? To assemble a complete discography of the Rolling Stones is indeed a daunting task. The band has, in its' long recorded history, multiple versions of the same songs, multiple versions of an album depending on country of origin, multiple record labels releasing their post-1970 recordings, mono and stereo versions of pre-1970 albums, mono and stereo and "electronically processed" stereo versions of individual songs, dozens and dozens of singles, dozens of European compilation packages, and then, in the eighties, the re-release of three-quarters of it all on compact disc. (!) To give you an idea of the volume, take the experience of German Stones' authority Dieter Hoffman, who put a book out in 1991 on the topic called the 'White Book'. The work covers all these issues in excruciating detail, and it required more than 560 pages to do so. So, in a nutshell - the field is wide open to do one online, and do it right, and it could be you who does it, or it could pop up tomorrow by someone working on just that. @Q7. Well, where *can* I get a complete one? Book buyers have a number of choices for references about the band's recording career: from perfunctory sketches in CD-sized paperbacks which go for $7, to painstakingly-researched, 500+ page career encyclopediae. The following three books are ambitious, relatively current, and available without going to the ends of the Earth. In November of 1996, Stones authority Felix Aeppli released the long-awaited followup to his 1985 book 'Heart of Stone'. Entitled 'The Rolling Stones 1962-1995: The Ultimate Guide To Their Career In Recordings, Performances, Films & Solo Pursuits', the book covers just what it says. With 2840 individual entries, more than 650 pages, more than 100 illustrations of single sleeves and record covers, and coverage of film and television, there's not much more even the insatiable could want to know. The A4-sized tome (approx. 8.5 x 11") bears an ISBN of 0-907872-26-3 and a price tag of 65 pounds/$US 125. Currently it is available exclusively via mail-order. Ordering information can be found at the following Web sites: Europe: http://www.zoo.co.uk/~recordinfo USA: http://www.musicbyemail.com Although it has a mistake or two (out of thousands of opportunities), Dieter Hoffman's 'Das Weissbuch' (German for the 'The White Book', ISBN: 3980248940) lists all official releases, vinyl and CD, single and LP, promos and dance remixes, in Germany, Japan, the UK and US, up until the Spring of 1991. It is more than 560 pages long and includes b&w photographs of covers and labels, and a detailed index of all known recorded selections by the Stones, even those appearing on 'official unauthorized' recordings (widely called 'bootlegs', see question 8). Although now officially out of print, it was originally priced, as an import, at about $US 90.00 for mail order. It has been spotted sporadically at Tower Records stores for about half that price, as recently as 1996. According to the fanzine "It's Only Rock and Roll", copies are still available directly from the publisher for 99DM + postage. (New Media Verlag Mozart Str. 10 Winsen and der Luhe 21423, Germany Tel: (+49) 4171 64243 Fax: (+49) 4171 64355) Published in 1997 at a reasonable price ($US 25 for softcover) is: "It's Only Rock and Roll: The Ultimate Guide to the Rolling Stones" James Karnbach/Carol Bernson ISBN: 0816030359 Publisher: Facts on File 11 Penn Plaza New York, NY 10001 http://www.factsonfile.com Treads some of the same area as Aeppli's 1996 book, and supplements dry historical review with collector/fan-oriented anecdotes, pictures of desirable rarities, and previously unpublished information exclusive to this project. Chapters are dedicated to the band's history in live performances/tours, official recordings, television, and film. (A book by Steve Appleford which is similar in price, format and title also answers questions about officially released material, but should not to be confused with the Karnbach/Bernson book.) Stones "fanzines" can also be a good ongoing source for the latest information for collectors and interested parties. Please see the "fanzine" section in this document under question #14e. @Q8. What about CDs? What do I need for a complete set? How do they sound??? Part IV of this document also includes a brief summary on the state of the Recorded Stones in _the_ format of the eighties and nineties. It briefly overviews who issues Stones CDs, what you need for a complete set of Stones music on legitimate CD (short answer: you can't do it just yet), and what kind of sound you can expect for your purchase. @Q9. Can you at *least* tell me about the solo records???? Fair enough. For our purposes we are not, at this time, including any appearances by band members on others' recordings, or band members' efforts at producing or presenting other artists, but restricting ourselves, in the interest of brevity, to recording projects prominently featuring the member, his name, or some variation thereof (e.g., the Charlie Watts Orchestra, Willie and the Poor Boys), and excluding singles and configurations that do not present previously unavailable material. The history of the Stones' solo careers goes something like this: Although considered the first 'solo' effort by a group member, 'Memo From Turner', sung by Mick Jagger in the movie 'Performance', released in 1970, is credited to the 'Rolling Stones' on European compilations. The soundtrack, which is still in print, says 'Sung by Mick Jagger'. No one, apparently, was all fired up to collect similar credit for Mick's vocal from the movie soundtrack for "Ned Kelly": "The Wild-eyed Colonial Boy", a traditional song sung by Mick's character. After years of languishing unseen (and largely undemanded) the movie came out on videocassette in 1993, and a CD rerelease of the soundtrack appeared on Ryko in 1998. Next up, in 1972, was a collection of lukewarm 'jams' which took place several years earlier in the studio while the Stones were 'waiting for our guitar player to show up'. The effort was called "Jamming With Edward", and it features the talents of Bill Wyman, Charlie Watts, Mick Jagger, and non-Stones Nicky Hopkins and Ry Cooder. It was released on the Stones' own record label, rereleased on CD in 1995 by Virgin Records in Europe, and in 1997 in the States. Bill Wyman released two solo albums on the Stones' record label in the mid-1970s, contemporaneously with Ron Wood's first solo work in his long (but still pre-Stones) career. Keith Richards issued a single in 1978, and ex-Stone Mick Taylor had a CBS album with his name on it in 1979. Bill Wyman had a certified international hit single in 1981 ("Si, Si, je suis un Rock Star") and in 1988, Keith's first solo album was released, making him the last Stone to release his solo debut album. The recordings listed below should be fairly straightforward. Promo-only versions have an asterisk. "LP" does not mean that the title is available on vinyl. Many of these titles have been released on CD only. "LP" in this section indicates only that the release was a full-length album, and not a CD single or promo disc. Jagger, Mick "Don't Look Back" sgl (1978) (billed as a co-lead vocal w/Tosh in some countries) "State of Shock" sgl (1984) (billed as a co-lead vocal w/Michael Jackson) She's the Boss LP (1985) "Hard Woman" sgl (1985) (German 7", re-recorded version of the LP track) "Lucky In Love" (4:51*, 4:45, and 3:57* versions) "Lucky In Love" (extended, and a 6 min. + dub version) "Dancing in the Street" (duet w/ David Bowie) sgl (1985) "Ruthless People"/"I'm Ringin'" sgl (1987) Primitive Cool LP (1987) "Let's Work"/"Catch as Catch Can" sgl (1987) "Memory Motel" (re-recorded for a BBC TV show) song (1993) Wandering Spirit LP (1993) "Sweet Thing" 12" single ("Mick's Extended Version", "Mick's Dub", "Instrumental of Extended Mix", "Extended Remix", "Stripped Down Version", "Instrumental of Stripped Down Version") 12" (1993) "Sweet Thing" CD5 ("Mick's Extended Version", "Mick's Dub", "Extended Remix", "Stripped Down Version", "Instrumental of Stripped Down Version", "LP Mix") CD5 (1993) "Everybody knows About My Good Thing" "Sweet Thing (Funky Guitar Edit)" (both selections are found on the "Don't Tear Me Up" European CD5) CD5 (1993) "Wild Eyed Colonial Boy" song (1998) (Rykodisc rerelease of soundtrack to the 1970 MGM film "Ned Kelly") Richards, Keith "Run Rudolph Run"/"The Harder They Come" sgl (1978) Talk is Cheap LP (1988) "Make No Mistake" (single edit) sgl (1988) "Make No Mistake" (extended edit) 12" (1988) Live at the Hollywood Palladium LP (1991) Main Offender LP (1992) "Eileen" US CD5 (has 4 extra non-LP tracks: "Gimme Shelter", "Wicked As it Seems", and "How I Wish", all live, plus "Key to the Highway" with Johnnie Johnson) CD5 (1993) "The Nearness of You" (song) (1996) (KR's 1980 recording of the old chestnut is used in the Julian Schnabel film "Basquiat", but does not appear on soundtrack CD) Taylor, Mick Mick Taylor LP (1979) Stranger in This Town (live) LP (1990) Too Hot for Snakes LP (1991) (Mick Taylor & Carla Olsen) Once in a Blue Moon LP (Gerry Groom, Mick Taylor & Friends) Coastin' Home LP (1995) Stone's Throw LP (1999) "Red House", "Separately" (1999) (bonus tracks on a ltd. edition of "Stone's Throw") Watts, Charlie Live at the Fullham Town Hall LP (1986) (Charlie Watts Orchestra) From One Charlie to Another (CD plus book "Ode to a high-flying bird") BOX (1991) A Tribute to Charlie Parker (Charlie Watts quintet) LP (1992) Warm and Tender LP (1993) Long Ago and Far Away LP (1996) Wood, Ron I've Got My Own Album to Do LP (1974) (aka "Cancel Everything" on CD) Now Look LP (1975) "Sweet Sunshine" (flipside to 'Big Bayou') sgl (1976) Mahoney's Last Stand (w/Ronnie Lane) LP (1976) Gimme Some Neck LP (1979) 1234 LP (1981) "It's Not Easy" song (1984) (on soundtrack to the film "Wild Life", and a 1998 tribute CD of Stones-related covers called "Cover You") Live At the Ritz (w/ Bo Diddley) LP (1989) Slide On This LP (1992) "Josephine ('In Your Face' mix)" (4:32) PromoCD (1992) "Somebody Else Might ('Slidin' on This' mix)" (3:48)/ "Ain't Rock & Roll (remix)" (3:46) CD5 (1993) "Seven Days" (appearance on Bob Dylan 30th Anniversary CD CBS C2K 53230) song (1993) Slide On Live (Plugged in and Standin') LP (1993) "Stay With Me" (edit from live LP*) CD5 (1993) "Somebody Else Might" (5:59 remix) "Josephine" (remix) (both tracks are on US "Stay With Me") CD5 (1993) "You Really Got a Hold on Me", "I Don't Know what You've Got" (bonus tracks on rerelease of 1993's SOL) CD (1998) "So High", "Interfere" CD (1998) (from a limited edition 4-track CD included with copies of his Genesis Publications book "Wood on Canvas") "Insurance", "Safety Pin Queen", "Anymore for Anymore", "C&W Number", "My fault" CD (1999) (five previously unreleased tracks from 1976's "Mahoney's Last Stand", on a Japanese CD rerelease) Wyman, Bill Monkey Grip LP (1974) Stone Alone LP (1975) Bill Wyman LP (1981) Green Ice (film soundtrack) LP (1981) Digital Dreams (video soundtrack) LP (1983) Willie and the Poor Boys LP (1985) ("superstar" group w/ Charlie Watts, Andy Fairweather-Low, others) Stuff (Japan only) LP (1992) Tear It Up LP (1994) (Live W&TPB album, recorded 1992 in Sweden; titled simply "Live" in Japan and UK) Struttin' Our Stuff* LP (1998) Anyway the Wind Blows* LP (1999) (*Artist: "Bill Wyman and the Rhythm Kings", another assortment of superstars doing traditional numbers.) @Q10. Where can I get bootlegs? Stones fans are pretty lucky when it comes to bootlegs. There are hundreds of Stones' bootlegs available, many of them are even high quality recordings. You can find all sorts of things bootlegged: demos, rehearsals, outtakes, concerts and interviews. Unfortunately, bootlegs are sort of illegal. A legal loophole discovered by 'Swingin' Pig' records in 1986 created an explosion in the "unauthorized recording" market, although it still finds challenges in court by the likes of U2, Phil Collins, and others. Many, (but not all) "unauthorized recordings" are not "bootlegs" but were legitimate releases throughout much of Europe at the time they were released. (You may, if you are lucky, find "unauthorized recordings" at your own local mom-and-pop record store clearly marked *IMPORT*.) Local authorities in Europe have been increasingly successful at finding ways to crack down on the manufacturers as the 90s draws to a close. In the US, 1996 saw a marked increase in raids on manufacturers and record shows, and shutdowns of long-standing retail outlets. But advances in computer technology have brought down the price and expertise hurdle of creating music CDs in one's living room, and many outlets which used to sell CD bootlegs are now featuring home-made CD-Rs of the same unauthorized recordings. With releases no longer tied to manufacturing plants and advance planning, it's hard to predict with a straight face that this art form will disappear any time soon. However, it IS still illegal, So... Here are the 4 main ways to acquire bootlegs: First, know your local record stores. Avoid the large chains - they generally only carry legitimate items. The small, independently run stores are good places to look, and used record stores are a good bet. Get a phone book and personally visit all the stores listed. Bigger cities and college towns usually have more of the stores you need. Go to your nearest metropolis or campus and comb the stores. Second, go to record shows and conventions. Even the ones that have a "no bootleg" policy can be rewarding, as they often don't enforce the rule very well. Check in area newspapers and with local record stores for dates and locations. Goldmine magazine prints a national directory of record show listings, but it may not list all of the shows in your area. Third, use mail order places. Record magazines, such as Discoveries, (or "Record Collector", in the UK) abound with ads offering Stones merchandise. Of course, there's always an extra risk involved when dealing with mail-order places, but most that bother to advertise in major magazines are reputable. If you're unsure of a vendor, start small (buy one item) and work up to larger purchases. If they are prompt and straightforward, then feel comfortable sending larger orders. As a last resort, you can often resolve any dissatisfaction with a vendor using the power of the purse: many credit card agreements have "consumer clauses" which allow you to withhold payment to a vendor if you can show that promised goods were not delivered in a satisfactory or timely manner. You can usually find a copy of Discoveries, Goldmine, or Record Collector in record or book stores, or get in contact with them directly. Caveat emptor. Bootlegs are often over-priced and low quality. Due to the legal gray area in which most bootlegs are sold, sellers may not have a friendly return policy on them. Some other vendors who offer bootlegs may refuse to do business with credit cards to avoid the paper trail that gets left behind. And one downside of the CD-R "revolution" is the huge supply of noisy or unusable discs, some of which may play or fail depending on the unit you try to play them on. Fourth, trade tapes with friends. This is the cheapest way to build a respectable collection of bootlegs. Buy a few discs and trade tapes of them to get tapes of other things you were unable to buy or find. If you make this economical method your main collection-building strategy, it is probably worth the effort to pursue titles for your purchases which are not very common. This will make tapes of your purchased discs more attractive in trading circles. @Q11: Which bootlegs are best? Which will have my favorite song? Part two of this document is occupied with nothing but answering this question. It is a concise history of the band's performing career, and it includes remarks on availability of outtakes, unreleased studio recordings, and live performances. @Q12. How can I get that Keith sound in the comfort of my own home? Two approaches, here: If you want to play like Keith, well you *really* need a Fender Telecaster ;-). As well, Keith plays in open G tuning, his own 5 string version. Take your low E string OFF the guitar and tune it: (low to high) GDGBD. You can always tune the low E string to D as well if you don't want to remove strings. Keith sums up his guitar playing thusly: "5 strings, 3 fingers, and one asshole." or: barre at the 5th fret (that's a C in open G tuning) and slam a few chords... hammer on an Am7 form in fron of the bar.. that's an F... slam a few more... repeat progression at the 2nd fret... noodle around on the open G.... that'll get you through about 70% of all the solo albums and a great deal of Stones stuff as well. A few tidbits... Keith uses talcum powder on the neck before he plays...it speeds things up a lot, but if you are really picky about strings, you will have to be religous about wiping them when you are finished. And of course, never be so dull as to actually play chords ON the downbeat... wait about 20 nanoseconds from all major timing cues...get that one string about 2 clicks out of tune... it's all in the tension, you know. And remember, no effects boxes and keep in mind that "it only tightens up"... @Q13. Wouldn't it be neat if there were a Stones "museum"? Bill Wyman operates a restaurant called "Sticky Fingers" in the well-heeled Kensington section of London. The food is much the same general type of menu as you might find at Hard Rock. Cost seems OK. The whole place is of course a shrine to a certain well known band! Bill has decorated it with framed (etc) posters, magazine covers, guitars, gold discs, etc etc. - even an especially good blown up cutting on the right of the door as you go out, headed 'Korner Cancels', referring to the first real Stones Gig, on 12th July 1962. No trouble finding things to read and gaze at while you await your meal. Most of the time Stones music plays. Location: 1 Phillmore Gardens, London. @Q14. I'm a novice. Can you recommend the best... First.... a note on the worth of opinions. They are, as the saying goes, like anal cavities. Everyone has one and they all stink. They are also free, so remember that you get what you pay for. Detached, objective judgment of the worth of a particular period of the Rolling Stones' career is a problem all its own. As Keith Richards has said, people tend to be fond of what they were hearing the first time they got laid. a. albums If you are thinking of starting out with live albums or greatest-hits compilations for an exposure to the Rolling Stones, (or for someone else's benefit!), consider: Their early work (the first eight years), originally on DECCA records (London Records in the USA), is covered by any of the greatest-hits compilations that are now being released on CD by ABKCO. "Hot Rocks 1964-1971", the double-CD set, is a near-definitive collection of the hit singles that established them as legends. Alternatively, you could pair up the single CDs "High Tide and Green Grass (Big Hits)" and "Through the Past Darkly (Big Hits Part 2)" for a collection of equal length with a slightly different impact. Or, get the 1989 ABKCO 3-CD set called "The London Years", which is stuffed with just about anything the band put out as a single in these years. It includes everything found on the American versions of the two "Big Hits" compilations, everything from "Hot Rocks 1964-1971" with the exception of three HR songs, and it has several somewhat rare selections otherwise unavailable on CD anywhere. (As of June 1995, the three compilations mentioned in the paragraph below seem to be off the shelves indefinitely and _superseded_ by the 1993 European compilation "Jump Back". If you can find any of these three compilations on your store shelves, consider that they may be gone forever soon. It's mostly no big deal: Two of the three have material that is available elsewhere. 1981's "Sucking in the Seventies", however, has several tracks on it which remain unavailable elsewhere on CD.) Several compilations cover their post-ABKCO work. "Made in the Shade" was originally released in 1975, and "Rewind (1971-1984)" in 1984. Unfortunately, the CD releases of these two albums have an overlap of four songs. "Rewind" is the better value for your CD money. "Sucking in the Seventies", from 1981, is of interest largely to collectors. It has three tracks otherwise unavailable on CD, including a live song from 1978, and the single/promo edits of 6 other Stones numbers released after 1975. A 1993 compilation, entitled "Jump Back", was not released in the US, but has, on a single CD, everything found on the "Rewind" CD except for "Hang Fire" and "Heartbreaker"; plus, thrown in for good measure are "Bitch", "Wild Horses", "Respectable", "Mixed Emotions", and "Rock and a Hard Place". The Rolling Stones have released six "live albums" (seven if you count 1995's "Stripped" which has a limited number of live performances) and except for 'Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!', released in 1970, everyone seems to hate something about all of them. Moving on to "regular" releases, many people are strongly persuaded that the Rolling Stones' years with Mick Taylor, and just before, are an artistic peak that no one before or since has been able to touch. To acquire that era, you can obtain the albums released from 1968 to 1972. (In order of release: 'Beggar's Banquet', 'Let It Bleed', 'Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out' (live), 'Sticky Fingers', and 'Exile on Main Street'). While an investment in the ABKCO compilations provides a fairly complete overview of the best of the Rolling Stones' first eight years, the band's first three American releases ('Newest Hit Makers', '12 X 5', and 'Now!') stand as a powerful documentary of what all the fuss was about. 'Aftermath' is also a favorite among many aficianados. What one critic has referred to as their 'silver age' occurred in the late 70's-early eighties, after many had given the band up for dead. The albums "Some Girls", "Emotional Rescue", and "Tattoo You" (released from 1978 to 1981) show a veteran outfit churning out top-notch material which was a critical and commercial success. Common rock criticism to the contrary, this rejuvenation was NOT just the result of the appearance of punk rock and the Sex Pistols in the world. After all, the punk phenomenon didn't seem to do much for Led Zeppelin or the Who. b. movies The Rolling Stones are the focus of several films that have still not made it to the home video market. Their film history is somewhat chaotic. Part of the reason you can't see them all at your leisure may have as much to do with technical feasibility as court injunctions. (Any movies that were subsequently released to the home video market are listed under part d. of this question, "home videos") 'Cocksucker Blues' - A concert film cum tour documentary, widespread exhibition of this film has been frustrated by much legal wrangling over the years. See question #15. 'Ladies & Gentlemen, The Rolling Stones' - A concert film by which all others surely must be judged. High excitement prevails in this film of two concert performances from their 1972 American tour. Originally released in Quadrophonic sound, the original soundtrack, recorded as it is on film in an unusual manner, requires considerable labor to screen properly. That effort is occasionally undertaken, as it was for a September 1996 screening at Lincoln Center. c. books The number of published books about the Rolling Stones can (and does) fill up a separate document all its own: Part three of this FAQ list. Still, it is probably of some use to have a 'shortlist', some starting point, so here are the titles of five current books we recommend for giving you a good start in learning about the history, influence, and greatness of the Rolling Stones. Please note that these five are not necessarily the best books about the Stones, but they ARE the best of what's currently available. 'Dance With the Devil' Stanley Booth - Delayed for years due to litigation, this book combines equal parts tedious personal confession and juicy Stones-tour gossip. Particularly compelling is the detailed description of a group rehearsal. An insider's account of the Stones' entree into the big time. 'Symphony For the Devil' Philip Norman - Stops in 1983, but the author delivers a respectful and competent biography. Bookended by anecdotes about their 1981 tour, Norman's analysis of characters in the play known as the Rolling Stones is deep and thoughtful. Revised and reissued in 1992. 'Keith Richards - the Biography' Victor Bockris - Little more than a cut-and-paste job of other, indiscriminately chosen biographies, this book still has the advantage of recent vintage, and the fact that the author can turn out seductive and flowing prose. Never a dull moment, which is actually difficult to say about lesser Stones'-related works. 'The Rolling Stones Album' Geoffrey Giuliano - Biographically, nothing is very deep - only a thumbnail sketch of the band's history is attempted. Sometimes, though, this is more refreshing than failed attempts at deep analysis. Intended as pornography for the Stones-memorabilia fetishist, this book has great color photographs of records, books, promotional items, and posters. If a picture paints a thousand words, this is a million-word chronicle. 'Stone Alone' Bill Wyman (with Ray Coleman) - The only book by any band member that was there in the early years, and at the height of the madness, this can (surprisingly) get awfully boring. If, as is said, the devil is in the details, then opportunities abound here, as one of Wyman's techniques is to provide the full text of letters for rather unseemly work-a-day tasks. Yet, there is no discussion of the band's musical working techniques, except as they pertain to, for example, how long they would spend working on a new song of Wyman's versus one penned by Jagger and Richards. Great opportunities missed, but others taken, if you have the interest and patience. NB: only covers up to July, 1969. Now these five *are* the best: good luck finding them all! 'Stone Alone' - Wyman/Coleman 'Symphony for the Devil' - Phillip Norman 'An Illustrated Record' Roy Carr - A beautiful, thoroughly researched, large-format book which presents the Rolling Stones' discography up to 1976. It includes tour history, side-project information, interviews, unreleased album covers, and beautiful reproductions of the original DECCA LP covers. Essential. 'The Rolling Stones - The First Twenty Years' David Dalton - Dalton has edited several books on the topic, any and all of them worthwhile. Another large format book, this collection of essays, reviews, band history, interviews, photographs, and a sessionography, remains overwhelming years after you acquire it. Out of print, and highly recommended. 'S.T.P.' Robert Greenfield The abbreviation of "Stones Touring Party", and the name of a drug, this out-of-print classic is about life on the road with the World's greatest you-know-what on their most infamous excursion to the United States, in 1972. (Rereleased in 1997 in paperback, without photographs.) d. home videos The Stones are the subject of several releases on home video. Any title marked with an 'M' has a theatrical release in its history. (Note: the designation ("import") means this is a title that is not generally available in the States except in 'specialty' stores. Since the rest of the world has a different video standard from the US, these tapes may have been made through a format-conversion process, and so may suffer in son et lumiere.) 'Bridges To Babylon Live' An edit of their December 12, 1997 show in St. Louis. This home video was initially distributed in the US under an exclusivity deal with Public Broadcasting, begun in March of 1998 and lasting for seven months. M 'The Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus' - Originally conceived as a television show, this 1968 gala (see question #15 for details) was screened for the world finally in 1996 at the New York Film Festival before its release on home video two days later. 'Live Voodoo Lounge' In November of 1995, a 94-minute home video began appearing on shelves in the UK. This single VHS tape, released 12/95 in the US, is a 17-song distillation of the November 1994 "pay-per-view" concert from Joe Robbie Stadium in Miami, Florida. It features one-time collaborations with guests Robert Cray and Bo Diddley. 'The Rolling Stones '95 Voodoo Lounge in Japan' (Japan-only release) A double-disc (or double-VHS-tape) of a March 1995 performance in Tokyo which was originally shown on NHK-TV. The set list includes "Sweet Virginia", "Slipping Away", "Rock and a Hard Place", "Live With Me", "Angie", and "Sympathy for the Devil". M 'At the Max' 85 minute distillation of the concert film they said couldn't be brought to home video. Originally filmed in the eye-popping IMAX format, and exhibited only in planetariums or learning institutions where your peripheral vision could be properly occupied, this feature was culled from three concerts in the 1990 European tour. PolyGram released this title on home video in Europe in November '94 just as the Stones planned to announce 1995 concert dates on the continent. The video was released in the US shortly thereafter. M 'Sympathy for the Devil' (ABKCO re-release) Re-released for home video in 1994 under the auspicies of ABKCO, this version of the 1970 Jean-Luc Godard film 'One Plus One/Sympathy for the Devil' opted for the more Stones-oriented title. 'Live Voodoo Lounge' Highlights of the band's four August 1994 appearances at Giants' Stadium at the New Jersey Meadowlands. This 90-minute concert tape is basically the 1994 set at that time less five songs or so (no 'Love Is Strong', 'Beast of Burden', 'I Go Wild', 'Happy', or 'Can't Get Next To You', which were getting played regularly at that point in the tour). This tape was only available at concerts from souvenir stands, or via mail order directly from Brockum, the Stones' concert souvenir marketeers. Originally planned to be out of circulation (along with other 1994 tour souvenir items) in the Spring of 1995. 'The Rolling Stones: Unauthorised Biography' This program consists mostly of *still* *photographs* floating in a small portion of the screen over a black background. There is occasional motion picture footage (a couple uninteresting complete shots of some airport arrival or departure which would be shown for only two seconds in a judiciously edited documentary.), and the *only* music one hears is about 30 seconds of "Around and Around" in front of that froofy curtain (is this PD stuff YET?). There are a couple TV news stories (Mick's 1967 bust and the 1976 UK tour), about one minute of a Wyman interview, and two minutes of of an interview with Mick Jagger done after his 1992 solo appearance on Saturday Night Live. (He wouldn't reproduce his comedic imitation of Keith Richards for the interviewer without the props he had on the live TV show.) '25 X 5 (The Continuing Adventures of the Rolling Stones)' - This two-hour retrospective of the band's entire career, released in 1990, has some ultra-rare and exclusive footage and performances from the band's own collection. It's narrated by interviews with the band, so bring your own grain of salt. Highly recommended. 'Mick Jagger & the Rolling Stones' A 30-minute episode of something called 'Celebrity Showcase'. At least the outside box is honest: it warns potential customers that there is no Rolling Stones music on the entire program. Not reviewed. 'Video Rewind' - A one-hour feature, this early attempt at making a unique offering in the then-infantile home music video market is occasionally successful and funny. It includes rarely seen "official" videos of records released from 1978 to 1983, two television performances from "Don Kirshner's Rock Concert" in the mid-70's, and a cut-and-paste version of "Brown Sugar", which uses spliced footage from several tours. The thread/plot tying this all together is a long hallucination by Bill Wyman. M 'Let's Spend the Night Together' - The home video version of the film of their 1981 US tour, directed by Hal Ashby. Opinion on this film is widely varying. Some longtime Stones' enthusiasts are disappointed by the performance, while others find it an exciting document of a great tour (current author loves it, but he was 18 when the tour took place!). A video rental costs you maybe three bucks - so we're not going to sweat making a bad recommendation. The original VHS release, if you can find it, may not be in Hi-Fi. 'Rolling On' - A 60-minute television documentary, assembled in 1982, but consisting of an annoying 'cheese-rock' soundtrack (no Jagger-Richards tunes), and some rarely seen footage from the 'Charlie is My Darling' era (1965). Little to recommend it except when you mute the horrendous audio tracks, and watch Jagger work a crowd in some rarely-seen early live footage. M 'Gimme Shelter' - This home video of the documentary of the 1969 tour and the disastrous free concert that closed it ("Altamont") stands as a classic film separate from any other rock film due to its' too-true human drama and its portrait of the end of an era. Last refurbished in 1992, the newest editions of the VHS tape are in Hi-Fi. Aficianados claim that the audio soundtrack on the last release of this film, in fine ABKCO tradition, was made from less desirable mono masters. There have been both R-rated (brief nudity, foul language) and PG-rated (cleaned up) versions of this film in home-video circulation. Other snippets of dialogue, such as some decidedly non-obscene negotiation in the Stones' lawyer's office, have been removed from some releases for no apparent reason. 'The Stones in the Park' ("import") - A one-hour Granada TV documentary of the Stones' July 1969 free concert in London's Hyde Park. The stage debut of new guitarist Mick Taylor, this show has snippets of some classic performances. Rarely seen, but is available for rent in select, non-"chain store" shops. M 'One plus one (Sympathy for the Devil)' - A pretentious bore by Jean-Luc Goddard, this film has splices of the Stones building and recording the classic track 'Sympathy For the Devil' in the studio in 1968. Since seeing the Stones 'behind-the-scenes' at work is so rare, this is a valuable document. No. No. Yes. No. No. No. (A 1994 re-release by ABKCO uses the 'Sympathy' title exclusively.) 'Charlie is My Darling' ("import") A one-hour documentary of their 1965 tour of Ireland. Some stunningly funny documentary footage of Keith and Mick, drunk, at a piano and singing. Also, a nice portrait of the frenzy and excitement that accompanied their early road work, including a truly frightening mob scene at a show that got out of hand while the band was playing. Same narrow distribution as the Hyde Park documentary video above. M 'That was Rock/The TAMI Show' - The Stones perform five songs in twelve minutes on the "Teenage Music International" show, filmed in Los Angeles in 1965. Other guests on the show(s) were Chuck Berry, James Brown, Lesley Gore, Marvin Gaye, the Supremes, and Ike and Tina Turner. Worth it to see a young Mick and Diana Ross singing together at the finale. e. fanzines * Basement News Basement News Distribution c/o Guenter Beetz Waldstr. 59 D-63110 Rodgau 6 Germany Phone & FAX: ++49 (6101) 16210 Cost for 3 issues/year: Germany: DM 20 Europe: DM 25 (Eurocheque or equivalent cash in national currency) Overseas: US$ 23 (cash) Published by Dieter Hoffman, the author of the Schwarzbuch (Black Book) bootleg bible and Weissbuch (White Book) listing of legit releases. Provides detailed information on current band activity, bootleg reviews, and the scuttlebutt on new Stones or Stones related record or CD releases. * Beggars Banquet [NOW OUT OF BUSINESS] P O Box 6152 New York, NY 10128 (USA) Monthly - 20 US Dollars/12 issues in the US, 25 US Dollars for overseas Originally a 'pure' fanzine written by Bill German, this survived being the semi-official Fan Club Magazine in the Mid-80's. Rather tame and uncritical, and perhaps too much 'Bill German and the Stones' (usually Ronnie). Wouldn't be without it. [Ceased publishing early 1996. A website run by the publisher at www.beggarsbanquetonline.com is still going, and offers back issues for sale.] * Front Row Fan Club Landseestr. 49 D-76437 Rastatt Germany A German-language _monthly_ newsletter which has published more than 50 issues. Includes live CD reviews. English-language Home Page is at: http://www.inka.de/sites/reuthe/index.htm * It's Only Rock'n'Roll Vabraaten 111 N-1392 Vettre Norway [Tel: (+47) 6679 4297] English Language, A5-sized magazine, first appeared in 1980. Published approx. quarterly, four issues are definitely scheduled for the year 1995. Price: NOK 200 (or, roughly, $US 30.00, or 20 English pounds) for four issues. No personal checks, please. Visa and MasterCard accepted, which greatly simplifies things. URL: http://www.iorr.org/ * Le Club Des Stones BP535 75666 Paris Cedex 14 France Actually the name of the French fan club for the Rolling Stones, they'll issue four A4 magazines per year to you (in French, natch) for 100F. * Shattered PO Box 3723 London SE15 1HW A5-sized 'zine. Four issues 12 UK Pounds/18 pounds overseas * Sticky Fingers Post Office Box 3474 Granada Hills, CA 91344 USA Published its first issue Jan/Feb 1996. Six issues are scheduled a year. $3/ea. at newsstands. Features extensive reviews of live CDs. Not reviewed. Rates: USA: $US 30 for 1 year Other: $US 40 for 1 year * Stones People c/o Yuji Ikeda 2-5-16-509 Harumi Chuo-Ku,Chuo-Ku Tokyo 104 Japan With a slower publishing schedule than most fan magazines, each issue is nonetheless hefty (~100 pages) and produced in high quality. * Stones People Magazine (nee Stones People Europe) Middenweg 2 1217 HT Hilversum The Netherlands Quarterly Prices (Eurocheque or cash only, please): NLG 60 (60 Dutch Guilders), NLG 80 outside of Holland 55 US Dollars for USA (incl. S/H) 15 US Dollars for sample issue (incl. S/H) Launched in December 1995, the goal is to publish quarterly issues of 64 pages each. Includes color photography, and all text is in both Dutch and English. Praised even by the competition. URL: http://www.stonespeople.com/ * Tumbling Dice Terry Carty 9 Collingwood Close Westage-on-Sea Kent CT8 8JD (UK) Quarterly 9 UK Pounds in UK, 12 UK Pounds in Europe, 18 UK pounds in rest Single issue for 1.5 Pounds plus a SASE (A5 sized). Only been going since early 1991 and still finding its feet. Each issue much improved on the previous, and distribution problems slowly disappearing. No band access. @Q15. What is/who are a. "Nanker Phelge"? The credited author of several early compositions ("Stoned", "The Underassistant West Coast Promotion Man"), "Nanker Phelge" is actually a pseudonym used for group compositions. "Nanker" was the nick name for a rather unpleasant facial expression band members used to make, and "Phelge" the surname of an early roommate of Keith, Mick, and Brian's whose personal hygiene left something to be desired. b. "The Glimmer Twins"? The production team known to the world as "The Glimmer Twins" consists of Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, so dubbed because of a chance encounter with an elderly woman on vacation, who thought she recognized one of the Stones, but only had a "glimmer" of the real identity of her find. c. "Rock and Roll Circus"? Mere days after the release of 'Beggar's Banquet' in 1968, the band pulled together a 'circus': a television spectacle consisting of real circus performers, and some progressive rock acts of the day. Jethro Tull, The Who and Eric Clapton were in attendance, as were lions, trapeze artists, and Yoko Ono. The idea was to produce a unique showcase, but the footage was eventually shelved, due to what the Stones felt was a sub-standard performance. It was not shown publicly for 27 years, except for brief excerpts in home videos (specifically, the Stones' own title '25 x 5', and the Who's performance of 'A Quick One', which was used in their own film/career documentary, 'The Kids Are Alright'.). It was also Brian Jones' last performance with the band. The two main musical highlights were a 'supergroup' consisting of Eric Clapton, John Lennon, Keith Richards, and Mitch Mitchell (of the Jimi Hendrix Experience), and a performance of several songs by the Stones themselves, including 'Route 66' (not filmed), 'Confessin' the Blues' (not filmed), 'Parachute Woman', 'Jumpin' Jack Flash', 'Sympathy for the Devil', 'No Expectations', 'You Can't Always Get What You Want', and 'Salt of the Earth'. The surviving footage (65 minutes' worth), including six of the Stones' selections, was finally premiered in October 1996 at the New York Film Festival thanks to an agreement between ABKCO and the Rolling Stones. A CD and home video were released that month, also. d. "Altamont"? To cap off their highly successful Fall 1969 tour of the United States, the band planned a large, free concert in San Francisco similar to a successful event they had done in London's Hyde Park in July of that year. Between permit denials, greed, and a last-minute change of venue, the event devolved from a potentially powerful West Coast Woodstock to a poorly-planned mess. A bad choice of security (American biker gang the "Hell's Angels") contributed to a day-long sideshow of violence and "bad vibes". By the time the Stones came on in the evening, tempers were short. The dramatic stabbing of a spectator by one of the Hell's Angels during the Stones' set was captured on film in the documentary "Gimme Shelter", available now on home video. e. "Cocksucker Blues"? It is the title of both a notorious slow blues song performed by Jagger which has been frequently bootlegged, and an unrelated film project by Robert Frank which was a documentary of the Stones' 1972 American tour. The song tells the woeful tale of a "lonesome schoolboy" who has come to the big city (London) but does not know where to find all the amenities a young man needs. Presented as a single by Jagger to fulfill a contractual obligation to the then-despised DECCA records, the label declined to release it. It did appear very briefly as an 'official' release: as a bonus single to a German boxed set in 1984. The box was quickly pulled, and re-released without the offending tune. The film is rarely seen, as a unique legal settlement has required that its' director, Robert Frank, accompany each and every showing of the film. More bark than bite. Drug-fueled orgies and all kinds of human degradations were rumoured to be captured on film. This was more a reflection of what people thought went on on a Stones' tour than what actually happened. Rather tame, it has some tit, some drunken revelry, some drug use by band members, and some footage of the greatest rock and roll band in the world in action. @Q16. Gossip a. How many times have they been arrested? The band's longtime acquaintance with law enforcement started with an infamous 'pissing' incident in March of 1965 in which Bill Wyman, who needed to use the rest facilities at a car fuel stop, was not only refused admittance to the chamber, but told to promptly vacate the premises. Mick Jagger and Brian Jones joined Bill in pissing against a wall, and the Stones' image as 'bad boys' was firmly established. In a remarkable show of solidarity and opportunism, which was not to be repeated, all five band members showed up at court, several weeks later... Unfortunately, being pop-stars in the "swingin' sixties", they were easy targets for aggressive narcotics enforcement officers. Human nature and law enforcement being what they are, these officers descended on the weakest and most vulnerable of the lot, Brian Jones, with some regularity and viciousness, although by the end of the Seventies, Mick and Keith also found themselves "busted" several times, culminating in the most serious case, Keith's 1977 arrest for heroin possession in Canada, which threatened the continued existence of the band. The Eighties, the decade of the "War on Drugs", produced its own comical efforts at putting Stones Behind Bars, but these were so poorly executed, they failed almost upon impact. Ron Wood, several years younger than everyone else in the band, got his own taste in 1980. Although charges were dropped, Mr. Wood was said to have problems with unspecified drugs in the early eighties, and also to have taken care of them with a "Betty Ford"-type cure while the Stones were languishing unused mid-decade. In 1994, Charlie Watts admitted to a mid-80s episodic problem with abuse of speed and alcohol, and a flirtation with heroin. He claims to have cleaned himself up towards the end of 1986. 1965 - "Pissing" incident at a gas/petrol station. Five-pound fines for Mick, Brian, and Bill are appealed. 1967 - The "Redlands" bust - allegations of carpeted girls and Mars bars. Keith's conviction on "allowing his premises" overturned on appeal; Mick's pep-pill possession successfully appealed - Court found that he had been more severely sentenced than an "anonymous young man". 1967 - Brian busted same day as the "Redlands" case court appearance. 1968 - Brian busted for cannabis. Found guilty and fined. 1969 - Hashish possession: Mick and Marianne Faithfull; Marianne acquitted, Mick is fined. 1972 - Jagger and Richards held on assault of a photographer; delay means the evening's show in Boston starts after midnight. 1972 - Keith's French pied-a-terre is raided; Coke, Hashish, heroin found. 1973 - Keith present when his British residence is raided. Drugs and guns. 1975 - Keith gets in trouble for carrying a knife in Fordyce, Arkansas 1977 - Keith fined 750 pounds + costs for coke possession. 1977 - Keith arrested for heroin possession in Canada. Eventually "sentenced" to play a free concert and take his cure in New Jersey. 1980 - Ron and Jo Howard hang out with the wrong crowd in St. Maarten, and spend several days in jail for possession of cocaine. 1987 - Jerry Hall gets into some trouble in Barbados when the local customs people decide a 20-lb. package of marijuana is hers. The "Kangaroo Customs" officers screw their own case, and Jerry is found 'not guilty'. b. How many times have they been married? Both Charlie Watts and Keith Richards are on their first marriages. Charlie married in 1964, Keith 19 years later. Brian Jones was never married. Mick Jagger had his 9-year marriage (to model Jerry Hall), which he never admitted existed, annulled in 1999. Ron Wood is on his second marriage. Ex-Stone Bill Wyman was the only member already married when he joined the group, and he entered his third legal marriage shortly after leaving the group in 1993. c. Will the band break up? At some point, we believe. d. Are they going to tour again? As of this revision of the FAQ, the Stones' concert concern has just wound down what amounts to a two-year tour - on the road from September 1997 through June 1999 with some brief layoffs. Rumours always swirl, but it's a safe bet that any new tour, if it happens, is not going to happen for a while. e. Is this the last time, really? They were first asked this in 1966. f. How old ARE they? Birthdays are as follows: Jagger July 26, 1943 Brian Jones Feb. 28, 1942 (dismissed June 8, 1969; died July 3, 1969) Richards Dec. 18, 1943 Stewart July 18, 1938 (died December 12, 1985) Taylor Jan. 17, 1949 (quit 12/1974; usual 1948 b.date wrong) Watts Jun. 02, 1941 Wood Jun. 01, 1947 Wyman Oct. 24, 1936 (quit 1993) @Q17. What gives with: a. that tongue logo all over the place When the band formed "Rolling Stones Records" in 1971, their label design was basic yellow, with a small red, white, and black "tongue-and-lip design", as the copyright notices now say, on the left side. The "tongue-and-lip", and countless variations, have since appeared on all kinds of official (and unofficial) Stones memorabilia and products. In a 1971 interview in _Rolling Stone_ magazine, Keith Richards claimed that the inspiration was the Indian goddess Khali, and he went on to say that we could expect many variations on the theme. The credit for the original design has been mistakenly given to several people over the years. The most frequent misattribution is the claim that it is a creation of Andy Warhol's. Even a researcher as thorogh as Philip Norman has mistakenly repeated this legend. Warhol designed two Stones' album covers, including the first LP released on "Rolling Stones Records", but he did not supply the tongue. Mr. Norman claims elsewhere that the earliest inspiration was a set designed by Kenneth MacMillan for the Royal Ballet's 'Paradise Lost'. As recently as March 1995, Billboard magazine printed a blurb which incorrectly hinted that the 1971 design which would go on to remain imprinted on thousands' of Stones' fans' minds came from one Ruby Mazur. Billboard finally saw their mistake and identified Mazur as the designer of the first officially used variation on the tongue: the Rolling Stones Records open-hole 7" single sleeve. First used in 1972 and last used 9 years later, the sleeve design has one eye, and uses the middle record-label open hole as "the mouth" of an ill-defined face. The design for the sleeve is memorable because the record-label hole is not perfectly round, as is standard industry practice, but a contour of the Mazur-designed open mouth. On April 8, 1995, Billboard definitely attributed the original classic design to John Pasch. In a 1997 interview done for a television infomercial pitch selling authorized Stones-related merchandise, Mick Jagger cited John Pasch. b. cheese Very simple really........... Woody says Keith is afraid of cheese in Rolling Stone magazine, October 1994... Undercover readers analyze the meaning of this for approximately six weeks, digressing into the interelationship between cheese and heroin addiction and constipation. A syndrome of tight pants wearers dubbed (by a doctor) as "Mick Jagger's Revenge" joins the story. Exact relevance, if any , unclear...... A newswire story about 18 people being injured in a Cheltenham, England cheese-rolling festival and the fact that Brian Jones grew up there leads to speculation that Brian Jones rolled cheese down a hill every year as a child in Cheltenham and then grew up to be a Rolling Stone. Speculation of cheese involvement in Brian's death in 1969 discussed now and then......... A Toronto caterer to the Stones commented that Keith lingers round the cheese tray and eats a lot for a skinny guy...... Keith tells Q magazine that he isn't allergic to cheese, but he might as well be..... Cheese influence on Stones lyrics analyzed (i.e. "don't wanna walk or talk about cheeses, just want to see Keith's face)...... Steve Portigal gives cheese names to unsubscribers who send their unsubscribe request to the readers, rather than to the admin address as instructed at the end of each digest. Mick Jagger, suspected of being an incognito reader of Undercover, begins talking about cheese during concert song interludes, introducing keyboard player Chuck Leavell at the Halloween show in Oakland, 1994 with the phrase "I talk to the cheese". (editors' note: current scholarship claims that what is said here is "I talk to the trees.") And why does this interest us? To each his own answer...or as Bob Dylan used to say.."the ants are my friends, they're blowin in the wind, the ants are just blowin in the wind" [special thanks to Dan Ream with his help on question 17.] @Q18. Myths & legends: a. Did Keith really get his blood changed? It was a widely circulated rumour that to cure himself of an addiction to heroin, Keith Richards flew to the Swiss chalet of an exclusive physician who had a method for replacing all of a patient's nasty addicted blood with good clean blood. Great gossip. Bad science. While it has been claimed in print by at least one biographer, this author was also Keith's dealer for several years. It is widely considered to be little more than another colorful urban legend. b. Do they worship satan? Among the phenomena that have become known to us since the formation of the Rolling Stones are: CDs, wireless amps, home video, and Serious Rock Criticism. Early Serious Rock Critics, trying in vain to capture in prose the mystique, wonder, beauty, arrogance, and power of the Rolling Stones, would often resort to demonic imagery. It did not help matters that the band released songs like "Sympathy for the Devil", or that Jagger performed in a swirling cape bathed in red light. Blame this one on the old "four blind men describing an elephant" syndrome. Professional demonist and man-about-town Kenneth Anger once asserted that Anita Pallenberg (Keith's paramour in the Stones' supposed 'demonic' period) was a 'witch'. But that's Kenneth Anger. c. Is Paul dead? He is rumoured to have shown up at a Rolling Stones concert in New York City in 1978 to catch the festivities. Other than that, no one seems to care.

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From: rzepelaa@netaxs.com (Anthony J. Rzepela) Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.stones Subject: Rolling Stones FAQ [2/4] Date: 1 Mar 2000 07:01:21 GMT Message-ID: <89if81$i3q@netaxs.com> Archive-name: music/rollingstones-faq/part2 Last-modified: 2000/02/28 Version: 7.02 Rolling Stones' Mailing list/newsgroup FAQ ==================================================== http://www.netaxs.com/~rzepelaa/undercover Part Two The Rolling Stones--Live and Unreleased recordings /***********************************************************************/ COPYRIGHT 1994-2000 (c) Anthony J. Rzepela (editor) This collection of four works is under the copyright of the editor, who may, at his discretion, relinquish said copyright to the authors named herein. This collection may not be broken up, or be made available by any publisher. It may not be redistributed in any form if any changes are made to it except by the holder of the copyright. The editor of this FAQ retains all rights for use of it. No author or proofreader or assistant credited herein grants the use of his or her name to any publisher. Be warned that attempts to publish this shared work-in-progress may interfere with legal commitments individual authors may privately hold with publishers. /***********************************************************************/ The Rolling Stones--Live and Unreleased Recordings (Version 6.02 of *this* document, February 28, 2000) The Rolling Stones have been around for over 30 years and have released many albums. However, for some fans, they haven't released enough. This is a guide for those fans who want to know what the Stones were doing on their many unrecorded tours, or are curious to hear the various working stages of a classic song. The only way to hear this is from unauthorized recordings. This portion of the FAQ is an introduction and guide to the unauthorized recordings of the Rolling Stones. This information is for educational purposes only. Please note that this article is _not_ written by Tony Rzepela. Your humble author chooses to remain anonymous; call me Mr. X. Any comments, questions, or additional information concerning this portion of the FAQ should be posted to Undercover; I will see it and modify the FAQ as needed. (Thanks to those of you who have contributed. You know who you are. Also thanks to those of you who have posted reviews to Undercover, which I have added to fill gaps in my knowledge. Hope you don't mind :)). This is intended to be a general reference, to be carried around when looking for unauthorized recordings. If you see such a recording, check the date/location in the FAQ for quality and my comments. This document doesn't have song titles but does include standard live set lists, in case you are looking for a live version of a certain song but aren't sure if it was ever performed. Set lists don't vary too much except for the first shows of a tour and the Voodoo Lounge through No Security tours. For song titles on a particular CD/LP, consult John Artukovich's "Fingerprint File" at http://www.primenet.com/~united86/ (was removed but now back), or Hendrik Mulder's "Love You Live" at http://www.gironet.nl/home/mulderha/, or Remco Terhoeven's page at http://home.wish.net/~gimme_shelter/. Books include _Hot Wacks_ (many mistakes but at least the song titles are right), Nico Zentgraf's _Collector's Delight or Collector's Disease_ (CD only, out of date now). For current CD info, especially Vinyl Gang Productions, consult Jaime Castenada's "The Stones Files" at http://www.zip.com.au/~jaime/. For setlists, try accessing Nico's data on the web at http://home.ins.de/~j.delmere/stones/books/zent.htm. For set lists on the "No Security" tour, see Bjornulf Vik's IORR web site at http://www.iorr.org/. For interesting analysis and commentary on Stones concerts and outtakes, see http://hometown.aol.com/chrism42/stones.htm. Also, a new version of Dieter Hoffmann's "Schwarzbuch" (Black Book) is now out. It's the definitive Stones bootleg book. This edition is done loose leaf style so future releases can be added easily. For brief information, see http://www.zip.com.au/~jaime/schwarzbuch/. Unauthorized recordings may be either live concerts or studio outtakes. Live concerts may be recorded in several ways: In the audience using a hand held tape recorder, by a sound man from the soundboard, or from a radio broadcast. Audience recordings will generally sound the worst, but modern technology makes it possible to have very good audience recordings. Studio outtakes are generally of good quality as the recording is usually professionally done. In all cases, sound quality will deteriorate as analog copies are made from one generation to the next. This is a partial list of unauthorized recordings of the Rolling Stones. It is not complete. I have omitted many LPs and CDs, and virtually all tape only performances. Many of the best recorded performances have been released by as many as 10 different companies; I have listed only the best or one of the best versions. This list is biased toward in- print CDs since they are what most people want, and can be found without too much difficulty. However, I have included some out of print and hard to get items which I consider important. Listings are by location, date, length, quality, and source. All quality ratings from 1 to 10 are done by the author, with 1 being unlistenable and 10 being perfect release quality. Since I can't listen to everything, some ratings are from books, fanzines, or postings to Undercover. These ratings are in the form of EX (excellent), VG+ (very good plus), etc. 'm' indicates mono, 's' stereo, and 'es' electronic stereo. Part 1: The Early Years with Brian Jones Most of the recordings from this period are either from media appearances such as the BBC and TV shows, or studio outtakes. Although the band toured constantly, there are few unauthorized concert recordings. This was the time of Beatlemania, and screaming girls and often riots at concerts. With the extremely primitive PA systems of the era, the Stones were frequently drowned out by the audience. Set lists: Second English tour, Feb./March 1964: Talking About You, Roadrunner, Roll Over Beethoven, You Better Move On, Beautiful Delilah, It's Alright, Not Fade Away, I Wanna Be Your Man. September/October 1964 UK tour: I Just Wanna Make Love to You, Walking the Dog, If You Need Me, It's Alright, Around and Around, It's All Over Now. March 1965 UK tour: Everybody Needs Somebody to Love, Pain in My Heart, Down the Road Apiece, Time is on My Side, I'm Moving On, It's Alright, Little Red Rooster, Route 66, The Last Time, Everybody Needs Somebody to Love. September/October 1965 UK tour: Mercy Mercy, Cry to Me, The Last Time, Oh Baby We Got a Good Thing Going, I'm Moving On, She Said Yeah, Everybody Needs Somebody to Love, That's How Strong My Love is, Talkin' 'bout You. Paris March 29, 1966 1st show: The Last Time, Mercy Mercy, She Said Yeah, Play with Fire, Not Fade Away, That's How Strong My Love is, I'm Moving On, The Spider and the Fly, Time is on My Side, 19th Nervous Breakdown, Around and Around, Get Off of My Cloud, It's Alright, Satisfaction. Paris April 11, 1967: Paint It Black, 19th Nervous Breakdown, Lady Jane, Get Off of My Cloud, Yesterday's Papers, Under My Thumb, Ruby Tuesday, Let's Spend the Night Together, Going Home, Satisfaction. No audience tapes earlier than 1967 are circulating although there are rumors of earlier tapes. BBC '63-'65; "Beat Beat Beat at the Beeb"/ others I quote from an Internet review: "This 2-CD set comprises all available studio recordings from the BBC sessions in chronological order. The quality is very good to superb mono/stereo. Unlike other titles most of these tracks are from tape/CD sources. Having this set makes all other titles (e.g. Get Satisfaction If You Want, Cracking Up, Beautiful Delilah, Rape of the Vaults, etc.) unnecessary... VGP's 'The Lost Treasure' is nothing new." However, a follow up review said: "I totally disagree. Seems to me that 'beat beat beat' trims beginnings and/or ends of songs in some cases that are complete in 'get satisfaction if you want.'" Note: I have not heard this yet. I assume that "Get Satisfaction if You Want" and "Crackin' Up" combined have most of these tracks but miss a few. Ed Sullivan TV '64-'67; 7.5 m; "Conquer America"/others Their famous TV appearances are available on several LPs and CDs, for over 20 years, and video as well. Many if not all performances are live vocals with the rest of the band miming to the studio version of the song, so not that interesting. The 1969 appearance is not on this disc because at the time of its release, the performance was not yet 20 years old; this legal barrier was surmounted for later releases. Of course some people don't worry about things like that. Outtakes '63-'65; 30 min; 9.0 s; "Bright Lights Big City" A combination of very early outtakes and Chess Studios outtakes. Old LPs are made from scratchy acetates but sound quite good otherwise; later CD releases have lost the scratches. (Old LPs also have an inferior Montreux '72, see below.) Moderately interesting; the early Stones sound none too confident in the studio. Misc. early live; "Bright Lights, Big City" I quote from an Internet review: "Very nice 2cd pack with early live material like NME poll winners 1964 and 1965, TAMI show, Saturday night at the London palladium, Ed Sullivan shows, Ready Steady go 1965 and 1966 etc. ALL these recording were released before but to get these recordings, you needed [a] minimum [of] 7 titles..." Another Internet review added: "Most of this has been available before but the NME Poll winners tracks are an upgrade to me. I almost bought the complete 2CD NME show from 1965 just to get the 3 Stones tracks but now for the money you get a great sounding but nothing new 2cd Stones only set. This has a great booklet also! Unfortunately, bootleggers have nothing new to put out so they keep rehashing old stuff with a new title or package. Don't fall for this." Even the title is copied. Misc. early live; "Record Mirror" Two separate box sets. I quote an Internet review: "Overall a waste of money unless you're new to the bootleg collecting world. If you have a decent collection already there's nothing new here except the great booklets. The sound is good but the quality is NOT upgraded at all. In fact there is much hiss from the sources and some tracks have crackle[s] from vinyl! This is a good set if you have nothing but it's nothing but a rehash of everything that's out there already except that it's in one convenient place. It's not worth the big price tag." Outtakes '64-'70; 210 min; 9.0 m&s; "The Black Box" Compilation of most of the decent sounding outtakes from the early period. Most have been available on other releases but a few are new here. Includes the Stones portion of the "Karaoke" (instrumental outtakes) CD. Having this set would be enough early outtakes for most people. Outtakes '64-'70; "From Mason's Yard to Primrose Hill" Nothing particularly rare here, but said to be "superior" quality. I haven't heard it. The title comes from Gered Mankowitz's limited edition photo book. Outtakes '64-'73; 70 min; 8.0 s; "Mad Shadows" A fine collection of material over the years including material never available before, even to tape traders. Mostly excellent sound. The Hague, 8/8/64; 4.0 m; "Back to the Hague" I quote from an Internet review: "To my knowledge the first ever audience tape of the Stones... The concert of the Stones in the Hague at the Kurhaus, the Hague (which was one of the most fancy hotels back then) was the Stones' first ever concert on the European continent. Opening acts were some dreadful Dutch entertainers, which made the crowd riotous. The show started with Walking The Dog and the crowd started to tear down the hall. Jagger lost his mike lead and played maracas on Hi-Heel Sneakers and Susie Q. The Stones ended with Mona (and not Not Fade Away as Karnbach and Bernson state) before the show was cancelled by the police. Never happened something like this before in Holland! Funny enough, the press didn't consider a Stones concert a big thing so didn't send a camera team. Luckily for us now, a young D.J. called Willem van Kooten decided it was important and went to the concert with a camera and a tape recorder. He recorded the complete concert from the side of the stage and even got to ask Jagger (during Susie Q!) if he had ever seen something like this. Jagger responded no, and said the police had to take it easy on the young girls. The tape is of very good quality, all instruments can be heard loud and clear. The tape is especially funny if you understand Dutch, since the reporter is clearly amazed at the sight of 1000 young kids fighting! The tape is on at least on LP (Back to The Hague), on video with the film footage, but not on CD as far as I know." Note: having heard the LP recently, I can say it really isn't that good. The instruments are fairly clear but vocals are totally inaudible. For completists only. TAMI show 10/29/64; 25 min; 9.5 m; tape (laser disc) This performance is available on at least one LP but may not be on CD. The video is available on a legal Japanese laser disc. Fantastic performance; being able to see it makes it even better. Great guitar work by Keith and Brian, and Mick does all his James Brown moves. Stereo mixes/outtakes 65-'67; 60 min; 7.5 s; "Dartford Renegades" This includes some of the stereo mixes that are on the non-US "Hot Rocks 1" CD, in noticeably worse quality but with slightly longer fade-outs, plus others that have never been officially released in stereo such as "The Last Time." Also includes outtakes dubbed from the rare German LP "As Time Goes By." Swedish TV 4/2/65; "A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss" I quote from an Undercover review: "...muddy but listenable... It appears all are live vocals with pre-recorded studio backing tracks. Nothing astounding here." (This CD also includes Paris '65-'67.) Paris 4/18/65; 40 min; "A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss"/ others A French radio broadcast but the sound is primitive. Good concert though out of tune toward the end, and the crowd is riotous. The show has been available for years on many LPs and CDs, but the listed Japanese CD is supposedly the best ever. I haven't heard it, but heard its predecessor "All Those Years Ago," and it was the best I've ever heard. Other releases miss the first song, are tinny, run too slow, etc. (This CD also includes Paris '65-'67 + Swedish TV above.) Paris '65, '66 2nd, '67; "A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss" Confusingly VGP has released these 1995? Paris rebroadcasts on two different titles with different filler. The listed title is the later and apparently superior release. "Still I'm Gonna Miss You" was the first; it was a single CD of these rebroadcast plus TV show filler. Sound quality is far superior to the original '60s broadcasts, and also superior to early '80s rebroadcasts that appeared on LPs. I quote from an Internet review of "Gathers:" "Disc 1 contains 4 tracks from Paris April 18, 1965, 3 tracks from Paris March 29, 1966 2nd show and 5 tracks from Paris April 11, 1967, taken from a recent French rebroadcast Musicorama in excellent mono quality. The quality of these tracks is truly amazing; this is probably the clearest sounding material from the Brian Jones era--and that includes the official 'Got Live.' Makes one really wonder what is left in the Musicorama vaults, since all shows were taped completely. Disc one rounds off with 4 tracks from a Swedish TV special on April 2, 1965 in full playback and bad quality, completely useless (see separate review above). Disc 2 contains the complete shows from Paris April 18, 1965 in exc. mono soundboard quality (see separate review above) and Paris April 11, 1967 in good-very good mono soundboard quality (see separate review below)." Note: I have only heard "Still..." and it's extremely good. Its filler is 5 songs from Shindig TV 5/26/65. I particularly like the '67 tracks which have some suitably freaky guitar work; also note the early-Pink Floyd- style keyboards on Satisfaction. Berlin 9/15/65 + Hamburg 9/13/65; "On Tour" I quote an Internet review: "This CD is a copy of the bootleg LP's 'Brian We Miss You' (MDR 5) and 'The Riot Show/Berlin 1965' (MDR 1). The Berlin show sounds quite good (I mean, we're talking 1965!), and especially Brian can be heard well. Hamburg is a typical sixties tape: muffled, only the audience can be heard." Note: quality on the Berlin LP is poor, 3.5 m; 30 min, plus it runs too fast! Hamburg is only one song. Haven't heard this CD, so I can only hope the pitch is at least corrected. "Brian We Miss You," not mentioned in this Internet review, is also poor; it's Vienna 4/2/67; 35 min; 4.0 m (see separate review below). Sydney 2/18/66; "He Is Not Dead"/ 1 other? I quote from an Internet review: "...Contrary to what most people think, this is a radio broadcast, not a audience show... In February 1966 the Stones did a... Winter Tour, starting with two shows at the Commemorative Pavilion, Sydney. At least four shows of this tour were aired by radio, and until now only one show turned up on CD. The sound quality of this CD is, considering the date when this tape was recorded off the air, quite good. It certainly is the best sounding, complete 1966 radio show (the better sounding Honolulu show is a true soundboard recording and not a radio show). There is a fair amount of hiss and static, but the show is (like all early sixty shows) incredible with a really nice set list." This CD also includes Citadel outtakes and two tracks supposedly with Brian and Jimi Hendrix. I have not heard it. Paris 3/29/66 1st show; 37 min; 4.5 m; "F***ing and Sucking"/ others First available on a rare LP; the listed title is a Japanese CD. Another French radio broadcast; the complete tape is not as good as the '65 broadcast. It's nowhere near the quality of the Paris '65-'67 sampler above, which does not include any of this show; it has never been rebroadcast. Interesting performance, the Stones play very fast in '66. Unfortunately there is an announcer between most songs, and three songs are incomplete. The listed CD also includes Paris 4/11/67. Most recent release of this show is "England's Rarest Hitmakers," which also includes rare official releases. Contrary to what you may have read elsewhere, it uses the exact same incomplete source tape with one very minor difference: "Play with fire" has a pronounced stereo effect. Still incomplete though. Sound quality for "ERH" is slightly worse, almost the same. It also includes rare official early studio tracks which are unavailable on CD. Paris 3/29/66 2nd show; 35 min; 5.0 m; "A L'Olympia 1966"/others Available both complete and incomplete on LP; now copied onto a CD called "On Stage" along with the 4/11/67 Paris broadcast. Quality is similar to the above and there is no announcer. (On the '65-'67 rebroadcast above in far better quality). Honolulu 7/28/66; 30 min; 7.5 m; "In Action"/others First available on LP in horrendous and then pretty bad quality, this concert is finally available in quite good quality on CD. This is the only known true soundboard recording from the Brian Jones era. Amusing performance; Charlie gets to introduce a song and announces one they already did, and Mick says it will be their last concert ever! Undoubtedly he was influenced by the Beatles, who would have their last concert on August 29. "Paris Match" omits the goofy introduction--another reason not to buy it. (The listed CD also includes "Trident Mixes" outtakes). VGP's "So Much Younger Than Today," which lifts its title from an old TSP LP, may be a slight upgrade but I haven't heard it. Outtakes and live '66-'69; 75 min; 10.0 s/6.0 m (varies); "Time Trip 4" This latest in the Time Trip series, this marks a return to form after the sub par Time Trip 3. Superb quality outtakes, either never before available or better than before, plus a few lesser quality live tracks. "Carol" at the end is the same version as "Ya Yas" but sounds better here IMHO. The mix is better but there is a very slight warble from varying speed I think. London Palladium 1/22/67; 15 min; 6.0 m; "All Those Years Ago"/others The performance where the Stones achieved even more notoriety by not waving to the TV audience at the end of the show. There is an interesting re-working of "It's All Over Now." (The listed CD also includes other early material). Vienna 4/2/67 + The Hague 4/15/67; "Groovin' Around"/others I quote from an Internet review: "...The first 7 songs from Vienna are listenable and not bad for the time. At least the sound is far better than on the old LP. I would rate it 5.0 m. The last 7 songs are from the Houtrusthal (corrected), the Hague (the Netherlands) and are of poor quality. What can be heard is the Dutch audience discussion the show, and lots of screaming?" Note: I haven't heard this CD but Vienna 4/2/67 on an LP is 4.0 m. Paris 4/11/67 complete; 30 min; "A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss" This is the best available complete recording of the 1967 tour of Europe, the last tour with Brian Jones. I have not heard the listed title, but it is said to be an improvement over "F*cking and Sucking." It also includes the '65/'66/'67 partial rebroadcast from 1995?, which is the best possible quality, plus Paris 4/18/65 complete (see separate reviews above.) TSMR sessions 5-9/67; ~430 min; 9.5 s; "The Satanic Sessions" 7 (!) CDs worth of rehearsals for TSMR, with Jigsaw Puzzle rehearsals on the 8th CD. Near-perfect quality; in some respects better than the official release. These are early run-throughs of songs, some barely recognizable compared to the finished album versions. There are also jams which were never released, and it's easy to see why. Some remind me of the Kinks, possibly because there's lots of piano by Nicky Hopkins (I assume). There are no vocals and lots of aborted takes. Interesting to hear once but probably not worth repeated listening. Note: This does not have as many takes of "Citadel" as "Request and Requires," but it's much better quality. Surrey 3/68 reh + int; 45 min; 5.5 m; "1968 Surrey Rehearsals" Interesting jams with the origins of Jumping Jack Flash, Stray Cat Blues, and many other classics. Brian is not present; Mick and Keith laugh about it. This was apparently recorded on a portable tape recorder by a visiting reporter, and the quality is not very good. The Japanese CD is better than the original LP. Part 1a: Brian is phased out The Stones did their last tour with Brian in the spring of 1967. They were unable to tour after that due to Brian's legal and health problems. The Rock and Roll Circus was to be a way around this, bringing the performance to the audience instead of the other way around. Beggars Banquet outtakes; 73 min; 9.5 s; "RSVP" An interesting yet frustrating CD of alternate takes and mixes from "Beggars," plus outtakes from that era. Some of the alt mixes sound arguably better than the official release, but others simply sound odd. A few run too fast. All the outtakes are available in better quality on old vinyl LPs; most are probably dubbed from "Trident Mixes" (see below). Worthwhile, but probably would have been better if it had not attempted to make an almost-complete alternate "Beggars." Re-released as "RSVP Revisited" with some new tracks lifted from the Beggars disc on "The Satanic Sessions" Vol. 2 and other previously available sources, and without the "Trident Mixes" dubs. Worth getting only if you don't have the original already. "Sympathy..." reh. 5-6/68; 20 min; 8.0 m; "Angie" This LP has part of the music in the "Sympathy for the Devil" movie. Good sound but not necessary now that the film is easily available. Outtakes '68-'72; 70 min; 8.0 s; "On the Rocks" Decent collection of outtakes including a few which first appeared here. Good sound quality but later releases such as "The Black Box" (above) make this mostly unnecessary. Outtakes '68-'72; 70 min; 9.5 s; "Trident Mixes" One of the classic LPs; has been copied onto CD. Fantastic sound quality, especially for the vinyl era, though it's a bit scratchy. Some if not all the music is from acetates, which are generally scratchy, so that could be the reason. Several interesting cuts but I find some of the instrumentals pretty dull. If you can find them, there are 2 CD-Rs of this material plus the Exile outs (see below), which are said to be very good quality without surface noise. Some of the same material is on "Hillside Blues," for which I quote an unpublished review: "Contains the well-known Trident material, and the Exile outtakes material in pretty nice quality. Better than previous CDs, but who knows how good the master/'best quality available' master tape may be..." Outtakes/diff. mixes '68-'73;100 min; 10.0 s; "Time Trip" 1 and 2 An interesting yet frustrating set of CDs. Some alternate takes of classic songs, plus slightly different alternate mixes, mostly Sticky Fingers era. Also includes a few Exile era outtakes ca. 10/70 which have surfaced elsewhere, one track from the 6/23/72 Dallas rehearsals, alternate Sway from the 45, a TV broadcast, etc. A fair number of tracks are repeats; Vol. 2 includes Montreux 5/21/72 complete, out of order, while Vol. has 3 of the 6 songs, and some of the supposedly different alternate mixes sound identical to my ears. The outtakes, alternate mixes, and Montreux have superb sound quality for the most part. Beware of early pressings of these CDs which have deteriorated by now to the point where they are usually unplayable; look for cracks in the playing surface. R & R Circus reh. 12/10?/68; 10 min; 7.5 m; "Gravestones" With the release of the R&R Circus video and CD, I'll mention that alternate versions of Parachute Woman and YCAGWYW are available on this old LP. Where's the video? (I'm also told that the boot LP versions of "Yer Blues" [not on this LP] are different from the official release. Haven't checked yet. Anyone?) (This rare old LP is a mixture of all sorts of tracks, which are all out on CD now in better quality, except for these two songs. It's usually packaged with "Rape of the Vaults," an LP of BBC tracks in low fidelity). Part 2: The middle period with Mick Taylor After the forced exit of Brian, the Stones hired Mick Taylor as new lead guitarist. His excellent playing made this lineup arguably the best for live performances. His first gig with them was a free concert in London's Hyde Park before several hundred thousand people. Brian Jones had died 2 days earlier and the concert became a tribute to him. Hyde Park 7/5/69; 85 min; 8.0 m; "Hyde Park 1969"/others First released on LP from an audience tape; later releases are from the movie soundtrack and a 1979 WLIR FM documentary, with only "Down Home Girl" from the audience tape. The performance is sloppy but energetic. This concert has an unusual set list, partly due to Taylor's unfamiliarity with the band. Note that some CDs are dubbed from LPs so they sound good but still have surface noise; the Swingin' Pig release is from tape. As of late '98 a new CD "In the Park" became available. It's a 63 min audience recording, different from the previous one, and not real good. There's considerable crowd noise, Jagger's voice overpowers the band, and no between song dialogue. Avoid. The first actual tour with Mick Taylor was the fall/winter 1969 US Tour. "Let It Bleed" was released at the end of the tour. Toward the end of the tour the band did some recordings at Muscle Shoals, Alabama (partly documented on "Time Trip" above). New York, Muscle Shoals, and Altamont are documented in the movie "Gimme Shelter." The official live album from this tour is the excellent "Get Yer Ya-Yas Out." This tour established a pattern which would continue until 1982: US tour every 3 years, with a European tour the following year. There was no 1979 European tour, but the New Barbarians toured that year. Typical set for 1969 US tour: Jumping Jack Flash, Carol, Sympathy for the Devil, Stray Cat Blues, Love in Vain, Prodigal Son (not at all shows), You Gotta Move (not at all shows), Under My Thumb, Midnight Rambler, Live with Me, Little Queenie, Satisfaction, Honky Tonk Woman, Street Fighting Man. Played infrequently: I'm Free, Gimme Shelter. Played only at Altamont: The Sun is Shining (by Jimmy Reed), Brown Sugar. Quite a few of these shows were recorded by fans in the audience. These tapes vary from atrocious to excellent. All of the good tapes have been made into LPs or CDs. Fort Collins, CO 11/7/69; 70 min; 5.5 m; "Catch Your Dreams Before They Slip Away" Distant, mediocre audience recording of the first show of the tour. For those who have to have everything. L.A. Forum 11/8/69 2nd show; 70 min; 7.0 m;"Born in a Crossfire Hurricane"/ others This is an unusual show in that there are two completely different, above average audience tapes. Neither tape came into wide circulation until the '90s. This CD is the only release of the slightly better tape. This is the best of the early shows in my opinion; Keith rocks. The other source tape is best heard as one of the CDs in "Cocaine on a Dentist Chair." Oakland 11/9/69 1st show; 70 min; 7.0 m; "Bring It Back Aliver" Another audience tape that did not circulate until the mid '90s. The PA blows out early on; the replacement system is quiet which makes for a good recording. The performance is average. The rare "Liver Than They'll Ever Be" LP and CD sound better than the more easily available title listed; this is probably available on a Japanese CD as well. Oakland 11/9/69 2nd show; 70 min; 8.0 m; "Liver Than You'll Ever Be"/ many others The first Stones bootleg. Many, many different releases on LP, now the entire concert is on CD. Good audience recording for the time but Mick's voice is too loud. Average performance. The LP, the first rock music bootleg with good sound, caused a sensation back in 1970 and was even reviewed in Rolling Stone magazine. Original Lurch label LPs sound quite good but many later pressings have excessive surface noise. The listed Swingin' Pig CD is not quite complete due to tape flaws in 2 songs but there is a VGP CD of the entire Oakland tape, with flaws. Either of these CDs is your best bet soundwise. The latest "30th Anniversary" release is remastered and nicely packaged to look like a Mobile Fidelity audiophile CD. Unfortunately, it suffers from a poor mastering job which attempts to boost the guitars but results in a shrill sound. At least it splices together the two incomplete songs. Overall, not recommended. Coincidentally, a primitive incomplete soundboard tape was recorded by Bill Graham's people, and broadcast on KSAN in 1972. That recording is available on a rare German LP "Oakland Sixty-Nine" and was later dubbed onto a CD with the exact same packaging as well as the inferior, overly processed "Hangout" CD. The soundboard tape sounds much different but the overall quality is comparable. San Diego 11/10/69; 40 min; 8.0 m; "Stoneaged"/others Best 1969 recording though it's an audience tape, good even by modern standards. Decent performance, marred by the amazingly out of tune show- closer Street Fighting Man. The original LP has been copied onto CD; the complete (70 min) performance is also available on CD. Original LPs sound better than any CDs. Of the current, complete CDs, the VGP release, "It's No Hangin' Matter," is preferred by some but others prefer TSP's release, which is carefully spliced to add in missing pieces of the show. Personally, I think VGP's is a tiny bit better. (The VGP CD also includes yet another re- release of MSG 11/27/69). Phoenix 11/11/69; 50 min; 6.5 m; "Gathering Madness"/ others This is a decent audience tape which suffers from low frequency distortion. The tape didn't circulate until the '90s. Supposedly it was recorded by the same people (TMOQ) who did the earlier West Coast shows. Worth getting if you have to have everything. Note "Sky Pilots" is said to be slightly better but I haven't heard it. It also includes the Amsterdam 10/9/70 concert in mediocre quality. Champaign, IL 11/15/69 1st show; 60 min; 4.0 m; "Cocaine on a Dentist Chair" This is a below average audience tape which first turned up in 1993. The tape recorder couldn't handle the volume and distorts on everything except the acoustic songs. Jagger's comments to the crowd are at least amusing. The title must have gotten lost in the translation; maybe it refers to Keith's bragging about how he used to buy drugs from a guy who stole them from dentists. Detroit 11/24/69; 70 min; 6.0 s; "Live in Detroit"/others Decent audience recording for 1969 but not good by modern standards. Originally released as the second ever Stones boot (also reviewed in Rolling Stone mag) "We Didn't Really Get It on Until Detroit;" supposedly Mick said this meaning it was the first really good show of the tour. Quickly copied onto several now very obscure double and single LPs, all collectible and scratchy! Only the first release is stereo. Now out on this CD, dubbed from the very rare stereo 2 LP set with minimal loss in quality (noise reduction) but some dialogue (scratchy quiet parts) chopped out. 3 songs (where are the rest?) from a mysterious semi-professional video (!) are available in 7.0 m quality on a rare German LP and the CD-R "American Tour, 1969 Soundboard Compilation." Baltimore 11/26/69; 60 min; 6.5 m; "Devil's Disciple" Decent audience tape of one of the best 1969 shows. First available on the "Devil's Disciple" LP, now the entire tape is on CD in better sound. The listed VGP CD, using the title of the old LP, is said to be slightly superior to "Baltimore 1969" though it's the same source tape. The listed CD also includes Little Queenie from a rare Gimme Shelter outtake video. A new source tape for the first 30 minutes of the concert started circulating in the summer of 1995 and was soon made into the misleadingly titled "Live in Washington 1969" CD; later pressings have the title corrected to Baltimore. Its quality is even better. Love in Vain on "Ya Yas" is from this show, not NYC as claimed. MSG, NYC 11/27/69; 65 min; 7.0 m; "It's No Hangin' Matter"/ others This show was another early boot LP; the entire concert is now on CD, roughly the same quality but without LP surface noise. Above average audience tape, good show. The listed CD is said to be the best ever release; it also includes San Diego 11/10/69. MSG, NYC 11/28/69 2nd show; 65 min; 5.0 m; "Live in NY 1969" This rarely circulated tape is not a good recording, but it's a useful document for those who want to hear a "Ya Ya's" show without overdubs. (This CD also includes the 11/27/69 show). "Ya Yas" acetate; 46 min; 9.5 s; "F*ck Yer Ya Yas Out"/1 other First available on the impossibly rare LP "Broadway" in mono, now in stereo on CD. This CD is dubbed from an acetate with somewhat different version of the tracks on "Get Yer Ya Ya's Out." Most interesting are probably the extra Keith (not Mick Taylor) guitar solos in Jumping Jack Flash and the missing verse in Sympathy. There is noticeable surface noise from the acetate but the sound is very listenable. The listed CD also includes bonus tracks from "Gimme Shelter" in the best quality I've heard. For very detailed analysis on the sources for "Get Yer Ya Yas Out" and various LPs/CDs, see http://members.aol.com/jmpjflash/yaya.htm Boston 11/29/69 2nd show; 65 min; 6.5 m; "That's No Way To Get Along" Above average audience tape. Not great though. This CD runs a little fast. West Palm Beach, FL 11/30/69; 70 min; 6.5 m; "Palm Beach 1969"/others A good up front audience tape, marred by speed variations which start halfway through. This was a damp, chilly concert where the Stones didn't go on until 4 AM, and the guitars are frequently out of tune. Still worth hearing. This Japanese CD is made from a very low generation tape, probably the best available. Note: VGP has released "Miami Pop Festival," which might be better. Altamont Speedway 12/6/69; 82 min; 5.5 m; "The Killer Festival" The infamous free concert. A tape recorder is visible in the "Gimme Shelter" movie; is this the tape? The recording is flawed, very muffled at times, and the drums are frequently inaudible. Great concert highlighted by improvised performances of Jimmy Reed's "The Sun is Shining" (or Lightnin' Slim's "Help Me Spend My Gold," if you prefer that title) and the just-written "Brown Sugar." Even the comments from the crowd are interesting. This 2CD set has the entire concert in best-ever audience quality, in mono instead of the usual reprocessed stereo. One song, "Gimme Shelter," is available from a near perfect board tape on "A Shot of Salvation" below. "Gimme Shelter" soundtrack; 40 min; 9.5 s; "There's No Angel Born in Hell"/ others There are several LPs and CDs made from the movie soundtrack. Unsurprisingly, those released after the movie became available on HiFi video sound quite good. Unlike "Ya Yas," these songs have minimal if any overdubs. Note that the video in the movie is spliced together from several shows and does not always match the music. The remastered video which was released in 1992? is virtually in mono but ca. 1989 CDs are stereo because they are made from the earlier HiFi videos. (Don't know if the "Gimme Shelter" unauthorized CD is mono or stereo.) Live & Studio '69-'74; 60 min; 8.5 s; "A Shot of Salvation" This was the first outtakes CD to break new ground compared to the vinyl era. It has outstanding to excellent sound and includes material never before available, even on tape. Rumor has it that this and some of the other "Scorpio" and related CD are made from tapes sold at Sotheby's auction house, which would certainly explain why some of the material is "new" to collectors. Brown Sugar/Wild Horses outtakes; 9 min; 9.5 s; "Mick Taylor We Miss You" The very first pressings of "Hot Rocks" had alternates versions of Brown Sugar and Wild Horses. ABKCo quickly released corrected LPs but a few of the mis- pressings made it to stores. They are extremely rare. Surprisingly these two songs are only on one LP and no CDs as far as I know. On the listed LP the quality is quite good but they run a little fast. Musically these takes are similar to but not the same as the versions heard in "Gimme Shelter." The next tour, Europe in the fall of 1970, was musically similar to the 1969 US tour except that a horn section was used for the first time. Typical set for 1970 European tour: Jumping Jack Flash, Roll Over Beethoven, Sympathy for the Devil, Stray Cat Blues, Love in Vain, Prodigal Son, Dead Flowers, Midnight Rambler, Live with Me, Little Queenie, Let it Rock, Brown Sugar, Honky Tonk Woman, Street Fighting Man. Played infrequently: Gimme Shelter. Most of these shows are available as audience tapes. As with 1969 tapes, quality varies from atrocious to pretty good. Almost all of the good tapes have been made into LPs or CDs. Malmo, Sweden 8/30/70; 71 min; 5.0 m; "Made in Sweden" This recording, like the other two in this 3 CD set, is a very typical 1970 audience tape, which is to say it's lousy by almost any standard. The sound is garbled in the middle of the concert. Definitely for fanatics only. At least it's roughly the equal of the tape being traded. This is the first show of the tour and the only known 1970 performance of Gimme Shelter. (This CD also includes other 1970 Swedish recordings). Also available as the single CD "Sweden 1970." Stockholm 9/4/70; 39 min; 5.5 m; "Made in Sweden" Probably the best recording of the set, which isn't saying that much, but unfortunately not complete. Gothenburg 9/6/70; 58 min; 4.5 m; "Made in Sweden"/1 other Almost complete, but this is the worst recording of the three. Also available on "Live in Frankfurt and Gothenburg." Hamburg 9/14/70; 67 min; 6.5 m; "Let it Rock"/others Decent, well balanced audience tape. The speed gets warbly toward the end. Good performance as are all 1970 shows. Also available on "Prodigal Sons Tour Mother Europe," coupled with a poor recording from Copenhagen 9/12/70. Also available on "Germany 1970," paired with Frankfurt 10/5. Berlin 9/16/70; 70 min; 7.0 m; "Shake Your Hips"/others Above average audience tape but not great by modern standards. Very good performance before a wildly enthusiastic crowd. Parts of the concert are also available on LPs in varying quality. This Japanese CD is the best release yet of this concert and surpasses all previous LPs and CDs. Cologne 9/18/70; 65 min; 7.0 m; "Cologne 1970"/others Above average audience tape which did not turn up until 1993. Worth hearing. There is a dedication to Jimi Hendrix, who died that morning. There is at least one other CD of this show which has tape flaws through the first 4-5, called "Eau de Cologne"--avoid it. Stuttgart 9/20/70; "European Tour Stuttgart 1970" There's probably a reason this concert was not released on LP or CD until 28 years after the fact. I quote from an unpublished review: "...overall I'd say a touch below average: 5.0 mono; the quality is fairly even throughout and gets slightly better during HTW and SFM. SFM is cut-off at the end. [There is] some noticeable audience noise during JJF's beginning." Paris 9/22/70; 70 min; 5.5 m; "Paris Affair" (FM w/commentary) This tape comes from a French radio broadcast, but the sound isn't very good. Apparently the source tape came from a microphone held to the radio speaker. How times change. The recording is certainly no better than an audience tape, and the between song commentary is annoying. This VGP CD is a little better than previous releases but might run a little fast. Paris 9/23/70; 60 min; 7.5 m; "Shake Your Hips"/others The only 1970 soundboard recording to date, and a primitive one at that which surfaced in 1993. It's another fine 1970 show with a long "Brown Sugar" and hot "Sympathy." This Japanese CD is the best release yet of this concert and surpasses all previous CDs. For some reason it's missing the last two (inferior quality) songs from a radio broadcast which were on an earlier CD, also from VGP. (Note: There is a great [9.0] snippet of "Sympathy" from this show on VGP's "From the Vaults;" see below). Various live '70-'73; 58 min; varies; "From the Vaults" This is a compilation of various live performances and the quality varies widely, from 5.5 to 9.0. Starts off with an amazing incomplete recording of "Sympathy" from Paris 9/23/70, which is by far the best soundboard recording of 1969 or 1970. Where's the rest??? It's all downhill after that, but worth getting anyway as it includes the two Dick Cavett show '72 tracks and the Montreal '72 newsreel audio in fine quality. There are also two songs from the Vienna '73 audience tape in best ever quality. Lesser tracks are various audience recordings, and '73 German TV tracks which can be heard on "MT We Thank You" (see below) in better quality. Milan 10/1/70; 60 min; 5.5 m; "Street Fighting Men in Milan" This LP was really criticized in "Hot Wacks," the so-called bootleg bible. In fact it's a very typical 1970 audience tape, unfortunately with many cuts and an incorrect song listing. Worth picking up for those interested in the 1970 tour; I don't think this is on CD. Frankfurt 10/5/70; 60 min; 5.5 m; "Live in Frankfurt 10/5/70"/1 other An average audience recording, a little warbly sounding. Missing one song. Worthwhile for Taylor fanatics. Also available on "Germany 1970," paired with Hamburg. Frankfurt 10/6/70; 45 min; 6.5 s; "Live in Frankfurt and..." This is an above average recording for the time but not great by modern standards. The CD is made from a rarely traded tape. The tapers are audible on the tape and sound American; you get one guess as to what they're doing while watching the show. (This CD also includes the poorly recorded Gothenburg 9/6/70 show). Essen 10/07/70; 50 min; 7.0 m; "European Tour 1970" Another early boot; until the mid '80s this was the only easy to get 1970 show. A very well recorded audience tape of a good concert. The LPs have been copied onto CD, but the best source is the old Rubber Dubber 2 LP set though all pressings have surface noise. Before their contract with Decca expired, The Stones were required to record one more song. Fed up with Decca, they recorded Cocksucker Blues, an obscene tale about a lonesome schoolboy. Its unauthorized releases are frequently paired with a studio outtake of Brown Sugar featuring Eric Clapton on third guitar. "CS Blues"/"Brown Sugar"; 10 min; 10.0 s; "CS Blues"/12"/7" "CS Blues" is a cool song if you're not offended by the subject matter and have a sense of humor about it. Even Mick cracks up a little while singing. This "Brown Sugar" is interesting and has more of a funky/party feel than the official version. Both songs are usually available in extremely good quality. The band did a farewell tour of England in March, 1971 before moving to France as tax exiles. "Sticky Fingers" was released after this tour. Let It Rock from Leeds 3/13 has been legally released in Europe on vinyl. Typical set for 1971 English tour: Jumping Jack Flash, Live with Me, Dead Flowers, Stray Cat Blues, Love in Vain, Midnight Rambler, Bitch, Honky Tonk Woman, Satisfaction, Little Queenie, Brown Sugar, Street Fighting Man. Played infrequently: I Got the Blues, Let It Rock (encore). Coventry 3/6/71 2nd show; 62 min; 5.0 m; "Farewell tour Coventry 1971" After this release, every known tape from this short tour is now out on CD. Too bad this is such a bad recording; if more '71 tapes were around this probably never would have come out on CD. This might be worthwhile for those who want to hear more from 1971. Leeds, UK 3/13/71; 60 min; 10.0 m; "Get Your Leeds Lungs Out"/ many others Great recording from the BBC though in mono. The first 2 songs are missing from every release. Relatively laid back performance. The rare LP on the Royal Sound label is the best sounding release IMHO, but Swingin' Pig releases are nearly as good. Their "...Revisited" CD features thunderous bass, and includes the stereo "Let It Rock" from the Spanish "Sticky Fingers" LP. (The Revisited CD is also electronically reprocessed to simulate stereo, and runs faster than TSP's original release). London 3/14/71; 52 min; 6.5 m; "London Roundhouse" Mediocre audience recording on LP. Good performance. "More Music and Better Sound" LPs have "Prodigal Son," others don't. The LP sounds a little slow. This has been copied onto different Japanese CDs. The CD of the same name sounds over-processed to my ears but I recommend the version that comes with the "Lost Marquee Tapes" set (see below), as it's a nice transfer, speed corrected and carefully equalized. Marquee Club 3/26/71; 40 min; 8.0 m; "Marquee 71 + Sticky Out" (sic) TV broadcast with bad sound for a professional recording. Fine performance but it was touched up in the studio. This is the only live version of "I Got the Blues." The touched up original broadcast is available on several LPs but the CD listed above is best. The unenhanced performance, which was going to be re-broadcast in 1992, is available on 2 different CDs; the better one is the Japanese "The Lost Marquee Tapes 1971." "Exile on Main Street" was recorded in the basement of Keith's house in France. Outtakes are available. "Exile" outtakes 10/70; "Wingless Angels"/others No, this isn't Keith's Rastafarian release. It's 10 Exile outtakes in arguably best ever quality, though with some hiss. Leadoff track is the early version of Shine A Light (Get A Line On You), from an official Leon Russell Mobile Fidelity CD. Also includes 7 songs from Fort Worth/Philadelphia '72 (see below), equal in quality to "Very Ancient, Thank You Kindly" (see below). Rehearsing for the upcoming 1972 US tour, the Stones were filmed by the BBC. Montreux rehearsals 5/21/72; 25 min; 9.0 m; "Gather No Moss" Also available on several LPs ("Bright Lights Big City" for one) and the Time Trip CDs; the listed CD is fine quality, and runs straight through without cuts. BUT it isn't quite as good as Time Trip 2 and misses the last song Loving Cup, which is not live but a mimed outtake. The 1972 US tour in support of "Exile on Main Street" was successful both musically and financially. Not one but two movies were made, the unreleased behind-the-scenes "Cocksucker Blues" and the concert documentary "Ladies and Gentlemen the Rolling Stones." Several concerts were recorded for a double LP live album but it remains unreleased due to Decca withholding the rights to songs. Typical set for 1972 US tour: Brown Sugar, Bitch, Rocks Off, Gimme Shelter, Happy, Tumbling Dice, Love in Vain, Sweet Virginia, You Can't Always Get What You Want, All Down the Line, Midnight Rambler, Bye Bye Johnny, Rip This Joint, Jumping Jack Flash, Street Fighting Man. Played infrequently: Loving Cup, Honky Tonk Woman (encore), Uptight/ Satisfaction (encore). Played once: Torn and Frayed, Ventilator Blues, Don't Lie to Me, Dead Flowers, Sweet Black Angel. Many of these shows are available as audience tapes, with the quality ranging from atrocious to very good. All of the good tapes have been made into LPs or CDs except for snippets here and there. Vancouver 6/3/72; 85 min; 6.5 m; "Vancouver 1972" Decent audience recording. First show of the tour and sloppy, but this is the only live performance of several songs. This Japanese CD is said to be the better of at least 2 from this show. Seattle 6/4/72 1st show; 80 min; 5.0 m; "A Fair to Remember Revisited" Seattle 6/4/72 2nd show; 80 min; 6.0 m; "A Fair to Remember Revisited" I read a favorable review of this on Undercover but am not so impressed. The first show has never been available in very good quality; this CD is about as good as it gets which is to say average '72 audience at best. The recording sounds a bit slow too. The second show is an above average recording for the era but this CD is not made from the best available tape; there is hiss which shouldn't be there. This definitely runs slow as well. At least both shows include "Loving Cup." The CD title is lifted from a European LP of the mid '80s. San Francisco 6/8/72 2nd show; "Midnight Magic" A previously uncirculated tape turns up on CD after a mere 26 years. I quote from an Undercover review: "...it's your usual-sounding '72 audience quality... not terrible, but very average: sound is pretty distant..., people talk, the usual drill. Besides being a 'new' recording, there are 2 obvious reasons to need this: Loving Cup, and an encore (HTW - only other encore in '72 being Boston 1st night)... At a conservative guess, [this] is probably about a 6.5 in terms of sound quality. Finally VGP used Annie Leibovitz's classic shot of Keith flaked out backstage for the cover (lovely shiny VGP card - worth the price alone). They even managed to find a not-incredibly- boring Mick Taylor shot for the back, which must be something of a record. Certainly worth having if '72 is your bag." Hollywood Palladium 6/9/72; 55 min; 6.5 m; "Burning at the..." Decent audience recording. Very good show. For some reason none of the 1972 TMOQ recordings turned out as good as their 1969 recordings. LP has been copied onto a rare Japanese CD. LA Forum 6/11/72 2nd show; 80 min; 6.0 m; "Get Your Rocks Off" Decent audience tape but not great. Not sure if this has been copied onto CD (yet). Chicago 6/19/72; A new tape turned up in 1997 and is now out on CD. I quote from an Internet review: "...[H]orrible and almost unlistenable. Don't waste your money on this CD. Speed problems and [an] all around bad recording." Dallas 6/23/72 reh.; 135 min; 7.5 s; "Stones Touring Party"/ others Apparent studio rehearsals, perhaps to get ready for the upcoming filming. Hard to say, because the material is fairly uninteresting jams with little in common with the '72 set. Mediocre mixing board recording with excessive vocals. Fort Worth 6/24/72 1st show; 83 min; 6.5 m; "Sweet Black Angel" The first and second show are out complete from 1st generation previously uncirculated audience tapes, recorded near the stage. Keith's guitar is very loud but not objectionable; otherwise these are very nice recordings though perhaps a bit trebly. Most interesting to collectors, these shows feature rare songs, as the band was filming the "Ladies and Gentlemen" tour movie. The 1st show includes the previously unknown Sweet Black Angel and Dead Flowers. (Also available on a competing CD "Ain't No Angel on Main Street," also a 4CD set, said to sound better, and with bonus tracks from Philly). Fort Worth 6/24/72 2nd show; 76 min; 8.0 s; "Ahmet Ertegun Thank You Kindly"/others A soundboard tape turned up for this show in 1998, minus two songs. This is well worth hearing, and it's not the usual spliced sources like Philadelphia Special. This recording is now out on at least 5 different CDs. I quote from an Undercover review: "...I have every FtW 6/24/72 2nd board CD ever issued, and this one is *quite clearly the best*. The VGP 'Fort Worth Express' was the incremental leader, IMO, but AETYK is leaps better still, and doesn't have the phony Happy that VGP inserted. The hiss reduction is finally complete, yet the sonic details are still there through the headphones. Compare LIV and the astounding, clean excellence of this remastering is immediately evident. Congratulations to the chef for this major upgrade, this quantum leap. All previous FtW releases are hissy messes compared to AETYK." Another Undercover review added: "Everything else released from this show is now pretty useless... Whoever [did] the remastering on this title [did] a spectacular job... I really can't think of anything I'd like different with this release, bar the obvious one of being a complete show (so the audience tape is still worth hanging on to). The single CD is bursting with exciting listening; the pace of the performance, combined with shit-hot '72 playing, and the pristine sound quality of this particular title are ingredients which simply can't be beat. Very nice job indeed." Note: Includes Don't Lie to Me. (This show is also available on the "Mick Taylor We Miss You" CD, from a totally different audience tape, which is not as good. This is not to be confused with the old LP of the same name, which is the Philadelphia/ Fort Worth soundboard recordings). "Ladies & Gentlemen" sndtrk; 80 min; 8.5 s; "Dragon Slayers" This is the 1972 tour movie recorded in Fort Worth and Houston 6/24-25. This Japanese CD is quite good quality but not as good as what can be heard in "25x5." Earlier LPs, including "Dragon Slayers," are not as good as this CD. Mobile, AL 6/27/72; 70 min; 6.0 m; "Mobile 1972" Decent audience recording; available slightly better on tape than on this CD. There are some similarities to the Fort Worth shows but no rare songs. Washington, DC 7/4/72; 75 min; 6.5 s; "Jack Daniels on Tour"/ others This is an above average audience recording, and this CD is better than all previous releases of this show, so this might be worth tracking down. Note that this title was previously used for an old LP of the Fort Worth/Philly soundboard material. Norfolk, VA 7/5/72; 75 min; 6.0 m; "Drive Me Crackers"/others Decent audience recording. Frustratingly, the old, incomplete LP "Going Back to the Roots" is better sounding (7.0 m). I am told there is an improved CD with the same title as the old LP, but haven't heard it yet. (The GBttR CD also includes Indianapolis 7/12/72). Charlotte, NC 7/6/72; 62 min; 7.0 s; "Back to the Roots"/ others Best audience recording of the '72 tour. Missing the first 2 songs. A rare Japanese CD includes the incomplete second song. Available on LPs since not long after the concert, but the CDs are better and more complete. However, even the CDs are not as good as some tapes. Akron, OH 7/11/72; 72 min; 5.5 s; "Akron Rubber Bowl" Not great, but this audience recording prominently features Nicky Hopkins. For hardcore fans only, or Nicky fans. Indianapolis 7/12/72; __ min; ___ _; "Goin' Back to the Roots" Said to be okay quality, recorded far from the stage. Haven't heard the CD, but that sounds like my tape. (This CD also includes Norfolk 7/5/72). Toronto 7/15/72 2nd? show; "Street Fighting Men in Toronto" Said to be a "very good" audience recording. Also available on a nicely packaged 2LP set, "Standing at the Kitchen Door," which is only 6.0 m quality Boston 7/18/72; 75 min; 6.5 m; "They're Really Rockin' in Boston" This concert started very late after Mick and Keith were arrested earlier in the day. Decent recording. This CD omits the mostly unintelligible speeches explaining the delay. Philadelphia + Fort Worth; 170 min; 8.5 s; "Philadelphia Special"/others Some of the unreleased '72 Lost Live Album has come out on boots. Legend has it these versions of the recordings were first broadcast on either Radio Luxembourg or WMMS Cleveland, but a more believable story is that 2 cassettes were sold backstage during the 1975 tour by a Stones associate. (Apparently the cassettes were then played over the radio in Cleveland.) These are fine raw recordings that have not been properly mixed in the studio, and do not have any overdubs AFAIK. Best sources are the "Philadelphia Special" LPs and CDs. For part 1 best sources are: the pre-Swingin' Pig "Philadelphia Special" 2 LP set (b&w cover, 'RSGL 72' written in dead wax)(runs fast) or the "pitch corrected" single CD dub (no company name, matrix # 94101). TSP's 2LP/2CD "Philadelphia Special 1" is overly NoNoised, but does have a few more tracks than the original release. For part 2, get TSP's "Philadelphia Special 2" which also runs fast. All other LPs and CDs, and there are plenty, are inferior. Incidentally "PS2" includes two songs from the "Ladies and Gentlemen" soundtrack to make up for a shortage of Lost Live Album tracks. Various live '72-'73; 75 min; 8.5 s; "Very Ancient, Thank You Kindly, American Tour 1972" This is an interesting release. Half of it is close-to-finished mixes of the Lost Live Album, the other half is rarely performed '72-73 songs, all available on other unauthorized releases. Sound on the Lost Live Album tracks is noticeably better than on "Philadelphia Special" 1 or 2 though the sound is a little thin or tinny. There are noticeable vocal overdubs in places. Main problem is these tracks run substantially fast, about 6%. Some of these tracks were previously released on the "Keep Your Motor Runnin'" LP, but there are more here, and in stereo instead of mono. That LP is still the only way to get "You Can't..." from the LLA, missing for some reason here. All tracks recorded in Fort Worth/Philly/Houston except: Rocks Off--Charlotte (audience recording); Dead Flowers--Ladies and Gents soundtrack; Ventilator Blues, Torn and Frayed, and Loving Cup--Vancouver; band intros--Pittsburgh; Don't Lie to Me--Fort Worth (unmixed soundboard recording ala "Philadelphia Special"); It's All Over Now--Hawaii '73. (Note that similar good quality '72 tracks are on "Wingless Angels;" see Exile outtakes above.) Pittsburgh 7/22/72; 70 min; "The Royal Dragon"/others The second 1972 soundboard recording to surface; this one didn't turn up until the summer of 1996, though it was long rumored in tape trading circles. The listed CD, which I haven't heard, is said to be "slightly better" than two previous, similar CDs, which I rate 7.0 s. They were made from a high generation tape. On all releases Sweet Virginia is from Fort Worth 6/24/72 2nd show, not Pittsburgh. MSG, NYC 7/24/72; 80 min; 4.5 m; "MSG '72" This is listed so you can all avoid it. This show is available in average, listenable quality on tape. However, this CD runs much too fast and is made from a poor generation, hissy tape. Both tape and CD are garbled at the end. MSG, NYC 7/26/72; 45 min; 8.5 s; "Welcome to New York" Mick Jagger's 29th birthday was also the last concert of the '72 tour. Legend has it this stereo soundboard recording was stolen from the mixing desk by 2 fans. Some LPs ("Tour '72," some versions of "Madison") are in mono and only have the "Mick Taylor" channel so Keith can barely be heard. Swingin' Pig releases are dubbed from old vinyl and drastically over NoNoised. Best source is old vinyl with 'RS 546 REI' written in the dead wax. Good luck finding a copy! Next best is probably the later pressing with the '2815' matrix; these are considerably easier to find. For more detailed information on the many releases of this show see http://members.aol.com/shareco/wtny.html. MSG, NYC 7/26/72 (audience); 30 min; 6.0 m; "The Loveliest Night of Seattle 72" This recording was completely unknown in trading circles until it was discovered through the Internet, of all places, in 1993. The Japanese of course put it out on CD. It's a decent recording, and captures the first part of the concert which is missing from "Welcome to New York." (Most of this CD is Seattle 6/4/72, 2nd show). The next tour was to Australia with a few stops along the way. The first stop was Los Angeles, where the Stones played a benefit concert for victims of the Nicaraguan earthquake. Musically, this tour was similar to the '72 US tour, except the LA and Hawaii shows feature attempts at older songs such as Route 66 which don't work that well and are dropped for the Australian tour. Typical set for winter 1973 tour: Brown Sugar, Bitch, Rocks Off, Gimme Shelter, Happy, Tumbling Dice, Love in Vain, Sweet Virginia, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Honky Tonk Woman, All Down the Line, Midnight Rambler, Little Queenie, Rip This Joint, Jumping Jack Flash, Street Fighting Man. Played infrequently: Route 66, It's All Over Now, No Expectations, Live with Me. There are several audience recordings from this tour not made into LPs or CDs. None are that exciting quality wise. LA Forum 1/18/73; 80 min; 6.5 m; "Winter Tour 1973" Mediocre audience recording with a couple rare songs. The LPs have been copied onto a Japanese CD which has the treble considerably boosted. The scratches sure are loud (!) but the music does sound better this way. Honolulu 1/21/73; 77 min; 7.5 s; "In Exotic Honolulu"/others Another above average recording which first surfaced in 1992. There are several CDs in roughly the same quality though the listed title is said to be the best; some CDs miss "Street Fighting Man" due to the length of the show. Note: Dates have been corrected as a result of new research. There were three Hawaii shows and all are now available. Honolulu 1/22/73 1st show; 71 min; 7.5 s; "In Exotic Honolulu"/others Above average audience recording which has been available since the mid '70s. Good performance. Available incomplete on LP, CD is complete, similar quality. This listed CD title is the same as the original LP, and it includes the first two Hawaii shows on two CDs in what has to be about the best possible quality. Honolulu 1/22/73 2nd show; 68 min; 7.0 s; "Mick Taylor's Last US Performance" A new recording turned up in early 1998 and now it's out on CD. I quote from an Undercover review: "...It is a previously unreleased complete audience [recording] of the third and final Honolulu '73 show, the Monday, January 22, second (10 PM) gig. Sound quality is comparable to (just a shade below) the other two very good Hawaii shows long in circulation..." Auckland, NZ 2/11/73; 75 min; 7.0 m; "Winter Tour-Auckland 1973"/ others The first show of the Australia/New Zealand tour, this recording did not circulate until the CD was released in 1994. It's a good, clear recording of a subpar performance. The Stones are pretty sloppy here. For those who have to have everything. Melbourne 2/17/73; 73 min; 7.0 m; "Melbourne All You Can Eat"/ others Good up front audience recording with some speed fluctuations, which did not circulate before the "Temperature Rising" CD was released. Good performance. The listed CD runs at the correct speed throughout, unlike "TR," and its copy "125 Degrees in the Shade," which are too fast for the most part. (Listed CD also includes Melbourne 2/18/73). Melbourne 2/18/73; 77 min; 6.0 m; "Advantage Melbourne" Average audience recording of a typical good performance, presented on a rare and expensive CD. You make the call. Note: Also on the VGP CD "Melbourne All You Can Eat," which is from a different, muffled recording. Perth, Australia 2/24/73; 50 min; 9.0 s; "Rocks Off" A classic. This stereo soundboard recording first turned up in 1987 on a German LP and is now on several CDs. Great recording and performance. I think this Swingin' Pig release is the best; it's a combination of the 2/24 show with parts of the 2/26 show; there is no 2/24 2nd show as some boots claim. It sounds a little better than disc 1 of "Happy Birthday Nicky" below. (Note: Total time of Rocks Off is longer; 50 min is the length of the 2/24 portion). Sydney 2/26/73; 65 min; 8.5 s; "Happy Birthday Nicky"/others The CD may claim disc 2 is 2/24 2nd show, but there was no 2nd show that day; it's actually Sydney 2/26. This is another stereo soundboard recording though not quite as good as 2/24; the tape has been copied a few more times. Avoid the Japanese "Winter Tour 1973" 2CD set if you ever see it; it's the audience recording of the show. At least it has the last 2 songs missing from the soundboard recording. VGP's "Rock 'n Roll Stew" is the soundboard recording with the last two songs tacked on from the audience recording, and the missing beginning of Brown Sugar added in from Perth; said to be similar quality. Sydney 2/27/73; 65 min; 8.0 s; "Welcome to Australia"/ others This recording did not surface until 1993. It's another stereo soundboard but not as good as the 2 above. The last show of the tour; Mick babbles at times, but it's another good performance as usual. This release is the first and only one so far with the entire concert, plus it's the best quality yet, so it's worth tracking down. (This is the first complete Taylor era soundboard recording to turn up, and it's taken 23 years). To promote "Goats Head Soup" the Stones recorded 4 songs for Don Kirshner's TV show. Don Kirshner TV 7/17/73; 20 min; 8.5 m; "Beast of Eden"/others I haven't heard this CD; they are also on the old "Angie" LP and of course video too. Unexciting to hear but kinda neat to watch. For the fall of 1973 there was a European tour in support of "Goats Head Soup." Billy Preston replaced Nicky Hopkins as the keyboard player. This would be the last tour with Mick Taylor. Typical set for 1973 European tour: Brown Sugar, Gimme Shelter, Happy, Tumbling Dice, Star Star (deleted from KBFH broadcast), Angie, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Dancing with Mr. D, Heartbreaker (first half of tour only), Midnight Rambler, Honky Tonk Woman, All Down the Line, Rip This Joint, Jumping Jack Flash, Street Fighting Man. Played infrequently: Bitch, 100 Years Ago, Silver Train, Sweet Virginia. Most of these shows are available as audience recordings. Quality varies but most are mediocre. Rotterdam reh. 8/73; 75 min; 7.0 m; "Can You Hear the Music?" First available on an LP and now on a CD with the same title, in slightly better quality and with more music. This is the best sounding part of about 180 min of tour rehearsals. It's mostly uninspired workouts, but there are songs never performed live, such as the title track. Now available in more complete for on "Can You Hear the Mobile?," for which I quote from an unpublished review: "I've listened to once all the way through. Two CDs--a little over 70 minutes each... There are several songs that sound good most all the way through, some partial, and some aborted rehearsal takes--these are monaurally recorded rehearsal playbacks, and monaurally recorded live rehearsals. Approximately a third of the recordings are muffled, (or have talk/auto noise) because of the outdoor location in Rotterdam, creating disturbances/interfering with the taper. These CDs seem to be made from close to master cassette tapes, in my opinion." Vienna 9/1/73; 90 min; 8.0 m; "Goodnight Vienna"/ others Very good audience recording for the time. First show of the tour and there are some mistakes but also some rare songs. Taylor burns on the rarely performed "100 Years Ago." Available on several LPs and CDs; this recent CD is the best release ever. VGP has done a nice job of splicing together several different tapes to get the complete show. Mannheim 9/3/73; 95 min; 5.0 m; "Mannheim on Ice" Very ordinary audience recording. This rare Japanese CD is its first release. Probably the only reason for its release is that several infrequently performed songs are performed for the last time. London 9/9/73 & 9/8/73 2nd show; 70 min; 6.0 m; "Come Back London '73" This CD is a combination of 2 London shows though only 1 is listed. It's a fairly hissy audience recording of great performances, among my favorites from '73. Manchester 9/12/73; 75 min; 6.5 m; "Manchester 1973" Decent audience recording. Might not be worth paying the high Japanese price. Newcastle 9/13/73 1st show; 75 min; 5.5 m; "Newcastle 1973" Not the well-known soundboard excerpt, this is the complete audience recording. It's average at best. Good performance as usual but this is for completists only. Various, Radio Luxembourg; 30 min; 10.0 m; "A Shot of Salvation"/ others This is a combination of Newcastle 9/13 and London 9/9. Great mono recording and performance. The rare Japanese CD "CS Blues" has the songs in the correct order and with longer edits than "A Shot..." but sounds the same. Two versions of this broadcast exist. The alternate version is "only" 8.5 m quality but includes a great Midnight Rambler. That song can be heard on OBR's rare "Down in the Graveyard" LP or "Back to the Graveyard" CD, a rare Japanese CD, and the "Gather No Moss" CD (mislabeled as "Brussels"). Birmingham 9/19/73 1st? show; 70 min; 8.0 s; "Birmingham Odeon 1973"/ others Very well done audience recording and good performance. The Oh Boy CD is the best of at least 2. This is probably the best audience recording of the tour and the listed CD is made from a low generation recording. Bern 9/26/73 1st show; 70 min; 6.0 m; "Swiss Made" Nowhere near as good a recording as the second show, this is a very ordinary audience recording. Bern 9/26/73 2nd show; 70 min; 7.5 s; "Swiss Made" Very clear audience recording reveals some sloppiness by the band. This CD is made from a better generation source tape than "Bern-1973." This CD lists the date as 9/25/73 which is probably wrong. Munich 9/28/73 2nd show; 75 min; 6.0 m; "Olympia Hall 1973" Average audience recording. Note that this is the true Munich recording; this date is sometimes given for the King Biscuit broadcast (see below). Frankfurt 9/30/73 1st show; 75 min; 6.5 m; "Frankfurt Tapes 1973" Frankfurt 9/30/73 2nd show; 75 min; 6.5 m; "Frankfurt Tapes 1973" Both shows are available in a 2CD box. Each is a pretty good audience recording. Mick Taylor is quite loud here, especially in the 2nd show. Hamburg 10/2 1st, Essen 10/10/73, misc; "The Stars in the Sky..."/ others Very good up front audience recording of both shows. This first appeared as "The Jean Clarke Mammorial Sonic Barbecue" LP (7.0 s quality), which was copied onto "The Stars in the Sky..." LP, and single and double CDs of the same name. The 2CD has both complete shows but is not as good as the original LP, as the low generation tapes are long gone. The single Midnight Beat CD includes the original LP, probably dubbed and said to be well done, plus filler tracks, mostly 10/17/73 2nd, to simulate a complete concert. Copenhagen 10/7/73 1st show; 70 min; 5.5 m; "Greatest Dane"/others Unspectacular audience recording. For fanatics only. Copenhagen 10/7/73 2nd show; 70 min; 6.5 m; "Wonderful Wonderful Copenhagen" Decent audience recording. Uses cover art from a rare German LP but this is the entire concert, plus it runs at the right speed, unlike the LP. It is believed this is actually the 2nd show, not the 1st as claimed. Essen 10/9/73; 55 min; 6.0 m; "Brown Sugar & White Snow" Decent audience recording, somewhat tinny. The LP repeats part of the tape by accident. Not available on CD as far as I know. Essen 10/11/73; 72 min; 6.5 m; "Essen 1973" Another pretty ordinary recording put out on CD. The last two songs are from 10/10/73. Rotterdam 10/13/73; 75 min; 5.0 m; "The Rotterdam Tapes 1973" Rotterdam 10/14/73 1st show; 75 min; 5.0 m; "The Rotterdam Tapes 1973" This is a very nicely packaged 2CD set in a box. Quite expensive, and the recordings are below average. For those with yen burning a hole in their pocket. Antwerp 10/15/73; 77 min; 4.5 m; "How Come You Taste So Good" Some Japanese labels apparently will release any old tape they can get. This is not a good recording; it's distant and very hissy. Brussels 10/17 1st + London 9/9/73; 75 min; 9.5 s; "Europe '73"/many others This is a very common show on many bootlegs from the time of its first broadcast on the King Biscuit Flower Hour in Sep. 1974 until now. All songs are from Brussels except Happy, Gimme Shelter, Heartbreaker, and Street Fighting Man are from London. Old 2LP sets such as "Nasty Music" combined this broadcast with 4 songs from the NYC 7/26/72 concert. For detailed information on the many releases of this show, beyond the scope of this FAQL, see http://members.aol.com/Bdsprngsym/brussels.htm. Bottom line is, the best sounding release is the rare German LP "Europe '73," also used as the source for most early CDs. Second best, and more easily available these days, is VGP's 5th(!) edition gold CD "Europe '73," which uses some of the LP's artwork in the VGP tradition. As a bonus the CD includes the first note of All Down the Line, missing from many releases including the LP. (Note: The CD may be dubbed, at least in part, from another CD, "Headin' for an Overload," which is 2 CDs of the earliest, less complete broadcasts.) All LPs and CDs other than "Europe '73" are inferior and/or have unnecessary duplicate or missing songs. Another web site which favors the CD over the LP, contrary to my ears, is http://www.gironet.nl/home/mulderha/Mathijs.html FM '73 1987/88 remixes/alt. vers.; 70 min; 10.0 s&m; "Nasty Remixes" This material was first available on rare German LPs but it sounds much better and is more easily available on this CD. It's both 1987-88 remixes and edits of the familiar Brussels and London songs, plus two new ones which were not broadcast until 1987-88: Brown Sugar from Rotterdam 10/14/73 2nd? show and Street Fighting Man from London 9/9/73, and Star Star from Radio Luxembourg Newcastle 9/13/73. Note the first 3 songs here are identical to "Brussels Affair." Personally I prefer the original mixes but think this Japanese CD is worth tracking down. Note: This CD is also available in a 20 bit remastered version which is said to have a slight improvement in sound quality. Brussels 10/17/73 2nd show; 25 min; 6.5 s; "Back to the Graveyard" For a long time this tape was traded as Antwerp 10/15/73 2nd show. It's apparently the 2nd Brussels show. This is a soundboard recording, but incomplete and hissy. This is a rare Japanese CD; this show is also available slightly incomplete on "Reflections of a Stone Alone." Note: The "Gather No Moss" CD claims to be partly from this show; it's not. See 9/13/73. (The listed CD/LP also includes other 1973 material. The LP is missing one song from Brussels due to space considerations.) (The listed title also includes other 1973 material from radio and TV broadcasts). Berlin 10/19/73; 75 min; "Tour Over Europe 1973" I quote from an Undercover review: "...A very good audience recording, but a bit bass heavy. A quick adjustment of the tone controls easily solves this problem. A tight sounding set as one might expect after touring for the past two years." This tape was in trading circles for a few months before VGP put it out. Alternate mixes and outtakes from "Goat's Head Soup" and "It's Only Rock and Roll" surfaced in 1996: '73-'74 alt mixes/outtakes; 64 min; 9.5 s; "Acetates" Once again interesting material which was never circulating has turned up on CD. Really good quality with only slight distortion on a few songs, no typical acetate crackles. I prefer most of the alternate mixes to the released versions, and the outtakes are pleasant enough. The last few songs are unimportant "mono mixes" which don't sound any different to my ears. To promote "It's Only Rock and Roll," the band again appeared on Don Kirshner's TV show. Don Kirshner TV 7/74; 13 min; 8.0 m; "Beast of Eden" I believe this CD is the first unauthorized release of these songs; they are fairly easily available on video. The widely seen "It's Only R&R" video is from this show, as are the less well known ultra camp "Till the Next Goodbye" and "Ain't Too Proud to Beg." Part 3: The Ron Wood era: Just before the Stones were to go into the studio to record "Black and Blue," in December 1974, Mick Taylor quit. Three different guest guitarists ended up on the album, and the band also jammed with Jeff Beck. Outtakes '73-'79; 45 min; 9.5 s; "Lonely at the Top" A classic LP of great quality, interesting studio outtakes. Most songs have Ron Wood but a few are with Mick Taylor. The LP was copied onto CD long ago. Now on CD by TSP, re-released by Dandelion, and VGP, both with extra tracks. Haven't heard the CDs so can't say how their quality compares to the LP, but they are probably quite good. Studio reh. 1-4/75; 70 min; 7.5 s; "Black and Blue Sessions" Not so great quality CD of outtakes. The source tape is fairly hissy. Moderately interesting with some extended songs; some songs are without final overdubs. This is a fairly rare Japanese CD; similar material is on the more easily available "Outtakes '74-'75" CD and the "Reggae and Roll" LPs. For the summer of 1975 US tour, Ronnie Wood was the "guest" lead guitarist. Although Black and Blue was mostly recorded before the tour, it was not released until after the tour was over. The 1975 and 1976 tours featured much longer sets than had been played in the past. Billy Preston also performed two songs at each show. Typical set for 1975 US tour: Honky Tonk Woman, All Down the Line, If You Can't Rock Me/ Get Off of My Cloud, Star Star, Gimme Shelter, Ain't Too Proud to Beg, You Gotta Move, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Happy, Tumbling Dice, It's Only Rock and Roll, Heartbreaker, Fingerprint File, Angie, Wild Horses, That's Life, Outta Space (both sung by Billy Preston), Brown Sugar, Midnight Rambler, Rip This Joint, Street Fighting Man, Jumping Jack Flash. Played infrequently: Rocks Off, Sure the One You Need, Star Star, Gimme Shelter, Luxury, Dance Little Sister, Cherry Oh Baby, Lady Jane (a capella by Mick), Sympathy for the Devil (encore at about half the shows). Most 1975 shows are available as audience recordings. In general these are superior to earlier tour recordings; the drums sound better in particular. Baton Rouge, LA 6/1/75 1st show; 135 min; 7.0 s; "Cajun Queen's Afternoon..." Baton Rouge, LA 6/1/75 2nd show; 135 min; 7.0 s; "Whores in the Night" The first 2 shows of the 1975 Tour of the Americas. First available on LP incomplete and in mediocre quality, these are both 3LP sets of the entire concerts, made from good clear audience recordings. The first show is available on the Japanese CD "Baton Rouge '75." The second show is available on the "Whores and Heroin" CD-R, for which I quote from an Undercover review: "...It is without a doubt on the upper tier of audience recordings I've heard. The show is fantastic and sound is [clear]. The performance is better than the one earlier in the day. The band is loose and Woody is grooving..." To me, both shows seem a little tentative but not bad. Kansas City 6/6/75; 135 min; 5.5 m; "Sure the One You Need" Not a good recording, especially compared to some of the well-known ones from this tour. The attraction here is the rarely performed title track. I quote from an Undercover review: "...It's a complete audience recording with quite a bit of hiss (worse in some places than others). The last few songs are very distorted and muffled; not listenable. I'll keep it, if for no other reason than the rarities played here: Sure the One You Need, Luxury and Dance Little Sister (fortunately these appear during the better portion of audio--less hiss and better clarity)." Various '75-'76 soundboards; "We Hope Ya Like Dis One" From Toronto 6/17/75 (2 songs, various mixes), DC 7/2/72 (2 songs), Earl's Court 5/26/76 (6 songs), and Paris 6/7/76 (2 songs). These are apparently not great quality soundboards. I have heard the 2 DC songs on tape and can confirm that MJ is wasted; very sloppy performance. This may be more for completists; maybe VGP is running out of material. Title is lifted from an old TMOQ LP sleeve. Buffalo 6/15/75; "Heartbreakers in Buffalo 1975"/ others I quote from the following unpublished review: "An incomplete soundboard recording... It contains 13 tracks in good quality, but with quite some hiss. The last 2 tracks are in average audience quality. Main attraction is the incomplete soundboard version of Luxury (where is the complete soundboard Luxury from Toronto??) Good, fast paced show, but the recording has a lack of atmosphere. This recording is also available on a Shaved Disc Release 'Hottest in Hell,' with Luxury faded out and missing Heartbreaker and Fingerprint File." Toronto 6/17/75; "Toronto" I quote from an Internet review: "The sound quality is good to very good audience mono. Good guitar mix and vocals; drums and bass (bottom-end frequency response) are a missing dynamic in the sound." This is available on both extremely limited edition vinyl and limited edition CD. Note that at least one song from this show is on "Love You Live." NYC 6/22/75; "MSG 75" I quote from an Undercover review: "A not so great audience recording. The 2nd half of the concert only with special guest Eric (is God) Clapton on SFTD. The sound is quite cluttered throughout and not very clear. If Clapton is playing, it is quite hard to distinguish it. Even Phil Spector would have a hard time liking this wall of sound. Too bad really..." NYC 6/27/75; 7.5 s; "Preserve for Future/Discover New York/100% Odd Lots"/others Nice audience recording. First available on LP back in the '70s ("Stereo Baby"), this has been on several LPs and CDs, but these Japanese CDs are the best so far. LA Forum 7/11/75; 160 min; 7.5 m; "LA Connection"/ others Taken from the slightly famous "Hot As Hell" video except this is the complete show. Soundboard recording with excellent drum sound but the guitars are too low. This CD is said to be the best release yet of this show. Mediocre performance IMHO. Apparently this show, on a Friday, was reviewed positively in Rolling Stone magazine, leading to the misleading "LA Friday" title given to some 7/13 releases. LA Forum 7/13/75; 152 min; 9.0 s; "LA Friday"/ others An extremely good audience recording, even by modern standards. This was recorded by the people who released it on vinyl as the classic "1975 Tour of the Americas" 3LP set. Now out on CD in even better quality than the old LPs. This title is the definitive release, as it includes both Billy Preston songs! Plus, it sounds a little better than the other CDs too. However, it was not recorded on a Friday; it was a Sunday, but the title is taken from one of the old LPs. It was later re-released as "Who Went to Church This Sunday," also an old LP title. Maybe it's just the recording, but IMHO these are mostly better performances than sides 1, 2, and 4 of "Love You Live." Cow Palace, SF 7/15/75; 123 min; 8.5 s; "It's Only Rock & Roll" Very nice audience recording, almost as good as the above recording but not quite. This Japanese CD uses the cover artwork from a rare German 3 LP box set but sounds noticeably better. The 7/16 Cow Palace show is available on CD and LP in similar quality. Fort Collins, CO 7/19/75; 130 min; "I'm Working So Hard" I quote from the following unpublished review: "'We should have kicked him off the stage, but we didn't. It's because we're both English,' said Mick about Elton John, who wanted to join on Honky Tonk Women [but]... stayed during the whole show. Mick later introduced him as 'Reg from Watford.' [This CD] features the complete show in excellent audience quality. Really too bad most of Mick's in between comments are edited out. Excellent show, one of the best Wood era Midnight Ramblers IMHO. Also nice are the bonus tracks from Milwaukee 6/8/75 (Sure the one you need, Heartbreaker, Luxury), in rather bad quality. This is a must for all fans of the '75 tour." Chicago 7/23/75; VG ; "American Compendium" Audience recording. Incomplete; only the 2nd half of the show. The CD title is taken from an old LP. Detroit 7/28/75; 90 min; 7.5 m; "Rock and Roll Goes on the Road Again"/others Soundboard recording though not the greatest. There is now another release called "Don't Forget the Motor City," possibly a CD-R. I quote from an Internet review of it: "Not the complete show... Great sound, though it seems to my ears the master was running a bit fast..." 83 min. long. Also available as "Detroit Rock City," which is probably similar quality. Jacksonville 8/2/75; 104 min; 7.0 m; "A Tour De Force" A very ordinary audience recording, with some hiss. There are some song cuts and the Billy Preston songs are missing. Overall ok, but you can do better. Note that this title was first used for a repackaged LP of the '73 King Biscuit broadcast. Buffalo 8/8/75; "Sad Songs Is All I Know" I quote from an Undercover review: "A very good audience recording with little crowd interference. Only drawback is a thin layer of hiss throughout the show from the tape source used. If not for that, this one could rank with the best from this tour. Still very listenable..." Note that this title is lifted from an LP of a different '75 show. The 1976 European tour was musically similar to the 1975 US tour, except that songs from "Black and Blue" were played. Typical set for 1976 European tour: Honky Tonk Woman, If You Can't Rock Me/ Get Off of My Cloud, Hand of Fate, Hey Negrita, Ain't Too Proud to Beg, Fool to Cry, Hot Stuff, Star Star, Angie, You Gotta Move, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Happy, Tumbling Dice, Nothing from Nothing, Outta Space (both sung by Billy Preston), Midnight Rambler, It's Only Rock and Roll, Brown Sugar, Midnight Rambler, Street Fighting Man, Jumping Jack Flash. Played infrequently: All Down the Line (twice), Rip This Joint, Angie, Cherry Oh Baby (once), Sympathy for the Devil. Played at Knebworth only: Satisfaction, Around and Around, Little Red Rooster, Stray Cat Blues, Let's Spend the Night Together, Dead Flowers, Route 66, Wild Horses, Honky Tonk Woman, Country Honk theme. Most shows are available as audience recordings. For some reason there are also a fair number of soundboard recordings available. Frankfurt 4/29/76; 45 min; 7.5 s; "Frankfurt 1976" The listed CD is a soundboard recording. Now it plus more of the concert from a "very good" audience recording is out on "More than Welcome to Frankfurt," which was originally the title of LPs from the '82 tour. Kiel 5/2/76; "European Tour Kiel 1976" Said to be good audience quality. Berlin 5/3/76; VG ; "Low Tide and Fair Hits" I quote from an Undercover review: "...above average audience recording. For fans of the 75/76 Tours (like me) it is a good buy, but not essential." Title is lifted from an old, lousy Knebworth LP. London, UK 5/22/76; 7.5 s; "Order in the Court"/ several others This soundboard recording first turned up on the limited "Liver Than You'll Ever Be II," one of the last vinyl boots. The listed CD is EQ'ed to boost the bass and remove hiss and sounds pretty good. It is not complete as claimed, and not even the complete board tape, which includes YCAGWYW. All board tapes miss the beginning and end of the concert AFAIK. An Internet review said: "...This show can be found in best quality and most complete on 'Out Of The Court...' 'You Can't Always Get What You Want' exists on tape, but not on CD in this soundboard quality..." London, UK 5/25/76; 60 min; "Another Earl's Court" I quote from the following unpublished review: "A near perfect stage monitor recording, although Jagger is in the background. The guitar sound is excellent, especially Ronnie's solos are great, IMHO. Great performance. This title is completed with an audience recording of Sympathy for the Devil, probably from the 5/23/76 show..." The Hague 5/29/76; "Any Port in a Storm" I quote from an Internet review: "...Taken from a very scratchy LP, the show is available complete and in better quality on vinyl and (without crackles) on tape. VGP did a bad job releasing this. CD title is lifted from an '80s European LP. Very nice and original photo of Keith on the cover! Truly amazing is the sheer excitement of the Dutch crowd, which makes it a nice show to listen to. Too bad the quality is below par." Dortmund, Germany 6/1/76; "Happy Birthday Ronnie" I quote from an Undercover review: "Another of many above average audience recordings from 1976. Again the quality is good enough to please completists of this tour, but not for more discriminating tastes." Paris 6/4/76; "Allright Charlie Watts" I quote from an Internet review: "...A new, high quality label has shown up!... Dirty Work Productions just released a tape of the never released Paris June 4, 1976 show (as we know the date on 'Paris Aux Printemps' and other titles is wrong, the video is from June 6)... in truly excellent quality... All instruments are there, all dynamics are there, [with] hardly any hiss; especially nice since a big part of 'Love You Live' is from this show..." Another Internet review added: "...It is a stunningly lovely recording. It is perfect!... It is the best concert on an album from the '75-'76 period. Sounds like a soundboard but it is not." Paris 6/6/76; 100 min; 8.5 es; "Paris Aux Printemps"/others Soundboard recording, made from a pro-shot video. Parts of this show are on "Love You Live." Good performance, arguably better than the next night; worth getting. (The Swingin' Pig release is better than the Speeder Ball release; TSP release has the wrong date). Paris 6/7/76; 125 min; EX- ; "Paris Par Exc."/others I quote from an Internet review: "...'Paris Par Excellence' [CD] is a bit disappointing to me. VGP had already released [this] some time ago on 'Europe 76' [which] was the entire show but unfortunately only an audience recording. [This is a] soundboard recording, but it's incomplete! 3 tracks are missing: 'Angie' and the two Billy Preston tracks (and also the band introduction). The missing of the Preston tracks [is inexcusable]: They are available in the same soundboard quality on the old bootleg LP 'Paris Par Excellence'... The first part of the show (disc 1) appears for the first time ever as soundboard recording and is of slightly worse quality (hiss) [than] the second part which was available before on some bootleg LPs." Whew. Not much to add but I'll note that the old LP is 8.5 s; haven't heard the CD. The audience recordings are 7.0 m. Good performance; parts of this show are on "Love You Live." Lyon 6/9/76; "Backstage Unlimited"/ others This is an improved release of the rare "Backstage Limited," which was 71 min, 8.0 s. I quote an Undercover review: "Complete show... The beginning of Honky Tonk Women, the end of Jumping Jack Flash, and the complete Street Fighting Man are in very good audience quality, the rest in very good soundboard quality. Very good upgrade... finally the complete show available on one title. [This] sounds noticeably better then the Lyon portion of Terrapin's 'French Made' (should be 'Backstage Unlimited' I think) and it runs at the correct speed. This release also sounds a lot better than 'Les Inrockuptibles' which has the guitars squeezed into one channel. [VGP] did a good job on mastering the tape. Very good show." Barcelona 6/11/76 "Barcelona Y'Ole" I quote from an Undercover review: "...A solid audience recording, but with many available from this tour, probably for completists only or those that attended. Very acceptable quality though..." Knebworth 8/21/76; 148 min; 8.0/6.5 s; "Hot August Night"/many others One of the Stones longest concerts, definitely the longest of the '60s and '70s, before a large crowd. The Stones worked up a special expanded set list for this show only. Interesting performance, if only to hear the unusual songs. Many audience tape recorders were running, so was one at the soundboard, plus there's a pro-shot video! There are many boots from various sources. The listed VGP CD is the definitive edition, using the soundboard source for the first 90 min except for Stray Cat Blues, then splicing together a top notch video source and a so-so audience recording to include every song on two lengthy CDs. The "Best of Knebworth Fair" CD is worthwhile for those on a budget and a nice package: 64 min; 7.5 m; it's made from the videos though not as good a source as VGP's. VGP's title and graphics are lifted from a beautiful German LP from the mid '80s made from the soundboard recording, which runs very fast. Thankfully the CD is correct. The Stones came to Toronto in early 1977 to record live at the El Mocambo Club. Keith was arrested there for heroin possession, but recording took place and became side 3 of "Love You Live." Toronto 3/4 & 3/5/77; 40 min; 8.5 s; "Small Club Gig" I don't have this CD, but have a rare German LP. That is a combination of a soundboard recording and 3 songs from an acetate, which were released on a fan club disc. Good performance. The next studio album was "Some Girls." Outtakes are available. Outtakes late '77; 100 min; 9.0 s; "Paris Outtakes" I & II This material is available on several LPs and possibly several CDs, but the Vigatone set of 2 CDs is superior to anything else I've heard. Very good recording and some interesting alternate and outtakes. Outtakes late '77; 65 min; ___ s; "Some Girls Sessions" I haven't heard this exact release but am told quality is an 8. I quote from an Internet review: "...My copy is damn good quality with no clicking or obvious problems which detract from listening. The ripping versions of Hang Fire and Black Limo are worth the price alone IMHO... This is the same as Place Pigalle Vol. 3, with a slight difference in track listing, but the same running order..." S.G./E.R. outs + SNL '78; 74 min; EX ; "Twilight Zone" I quote from an Undercover review: "Quality is very good, but there is some background hiss... [It] doesn't detract from the music much (more noticeable between tracks, rather than during the songs) and it's well worth getting. For the 1978 US tour, the band played most of "Some Girls" and dropped many older songs. The sets were considerably shorter than the '75-'76 sets. Billy Preston was sacked; keyboardists Ian Stewart and Ian McLagan were featured prominently. After the tour, the Stones appeared on Saturday Night Live; they are the only band to appear and play a three song set without interruption. Typical set for 1978 US tour: Let It Rock, All Down the Line, Honky Tonk Woman, Star Star, When the Whip Comes Down, Lies, Miss You, Beast of Burden, Just My Imagination, Shattered, Respectable, Far Away Eyes, Love in Vain, Tumbling Dice, Happy, Sweet Little Sixteen, Brown Sugar, Jumping Jack Flash. Played infrequently: Hound Dog, Satisfaction, Street Fighting Man. Most if not all shows are available as audience recordings. This tour was heavily bootlegged; about 75% of the tour dates are available on vinyl. Most have decent but not great quality. The listing below is rather short since the LPs are all long out of print and I don't collect them all. Woodstock 5/78 reh.; 290 min; 8.5 s; "The Complete Woodstock Tapes"/ others Very nice soundboard quality. I quote from an Undercover review: "Overall, the set has noticeably less hiss than the other Woodstock CD releases I have [lists 3]. I have yet to hear any LP crackles either." Another Undercover review: "4 CDs of very different/cool versions of songs old and new. Some tracks are tedious, others abruptly end in the middle of a song, but the sound throughout is excellent. The definitive set." This recent release may be more than you want to hear (45 tracks), but there are lots of old classics, including CS Blues (!) and other songs never played live. Previous releases only have half of this material, or less. Passaic, NJ 6/14/78; 90 min; 9.0 s; "Garden State 78"/others Excellent stereo soundboard recording; probably the most well known boot of the tour. Legend has it the tape was stolen from the soundboard before the show ended which explains why the end is missing. Good performance except the incomplete encore "Street Fighting Man" sounds completely unrehearsed; it's terrible. Original LPs sound better than any CD release; in fact The Swingin' Pig "Out on Bail" and Scorpio's "Capital Connection" both appear to be dubbed from vinyl. Washington, DC 6/15/78; "Far Away Washington" The last of the small gigs which opened this tour; the Warner Theater only holds a few thousand people. I quote from an Undercover review: "...Another keeper. Above average sounding with a typically short set-list..." Chicago 7/8/78; "Tight Dresses and Tampax"/ 1 other I quote from an Undercover review: "A very good audience recording which [is one of]... the two best audience recordings I've heard from this high octane tour. Very pleased with this one." CD title is taken from an '80s European LP which wasn't that great; sounds like this CD is better. Also available on "Speed Freaks" which I also haven't heard. Tucson, AZ 7/21/78 "Let the Juice Pumping" I quote from an Undercover review: "A good but not great audience recording. Very listenable but at lower volume levels. A bit too much distortion interferes with what would have been a very good sounding show. Especially compelling because Linda Ronstadt guests on Tumbling Dice, but the damn recording volume was too high thus making the distortion. A keeper, but sort of disappointing with what might have been." Fort Worth 7/18/78; 90 min; 10.0 s; "Handsome Girls" Part of this show was already available on the (rare) CD "Somewhere in Dallas," but this is the entire show in best possible quality. I am told this CD was made from tapes liberated from the King Biscuit archives, which explains its outstanding quality. (This CD also includes '78 radio broadcasts). US radio '78 (various); 140 min; 10.0 s; "Handsome Girls"/many others These songs have been widely available since they were first broadcast in 1979, but this is their best quality ever. CDs 3 and 4 of this set compile almost every song ever broadcast (TSP's 1st edition misses 4 songs, Dandelion's 2nd edition has them), plus a few that never were (Star Star). Since the source tapes were liberated from the King Biscuit archives, they are not bleeped or censored as they were for broadcast. Dandelion's release also adds a few more rarities from lesser quality audience recordings. It is said to sound even "brighter," not a bad thing. However, Dandelion did not use the best source for the previously missing 4 songs; for that you need the obscure and very mis-titled LP "Live from England 1974," which is all '78 radio broadcasts! LA 8/78 outtakes; 93 min; EX- s; "One Night with Tallahassee Lassie" This is a copy of a rare Japanese CD "The Harder They Come," with extra material added. The LA material was never before available. Keith's sentence for heroin possession in Toronto was light: Perform a benefit concert for the Canadian National Institute for the Blind. At the start of the New Barbarians tour in Toronto, the Stones made a surprise appearance. Toronto 4/22/79 2nd show w/New Barbs; 100 min; 9.0 s; "Blind Date Revisited" This used to be only available as an audience recording but a soundboard recording turned up in 1995 and was put out by The Swingin' Pig. John Belushi introduces the band. The performance can charitably (pun intended) be described as "ragged;" the singing is mostly atrocious. In some respects the audience recording is better; it has a better guitar sound for example. "Emotional Rescue" outtakes are available. "Emotional Rescue" outtakes; 67 min; EX- s; "Emotional Rescue Demos" I don't have this CD, but these songs can be heard in quite good quality on LP; the CD should be similar. Outtakes 12/74, 1-3/78, 1-2/79; 73 min; 9.5 s; "Static in the Attic" Great quality outtakes, mostly from "Emotional Rescue" though some are earlier. Some are previously unheard and the others are probably in best ever quality. Leadoff track is an undated interview with Mick, which I happen to know is from Europe 1970. Asked about bootlegs, Mick says he likes bootleg records! Of course, back in those days, being bootlegged was almost an honor; it meant the band had serious fans. As mentioned previously, the Stones broke from previous trends by not touring Europe in 1979. The New Barbarians, with Keith and Ronnie, toured instead. The next Stones tour was in the US, 1981, for "Tattoo You." There was an official live album, "Still Life," and movie, "Let's Spend the Night Together." Typical set for 1981 US tour: Under My Thumb, When the Whip Comes Down, Let's Spend the Night Together, Shattered, Neighbors, Black Limousine, Just My Imagination, 20 Flight Rock, Going to a Go Go, Let Me Go, Time is on My Side, Beast of Burden, Waiting on a Friend, Let It Bleed, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Little T&A, Tumbling Dice, She's So Cold, All Down the Line, Hang Fire, Star Star, Miss You, Start Me Up, Honky Tonk Woman, Brown Sugar, Jumping Jack Flash, Street Fighting Man (a few shows), and/or Satisfaction (most shows). Played infrequently: Tops, Down the Road Apiece, Mona, Star Star. Most if not all shows are available as audience recordings. About two thirds of the tour dates are available on vinyl. The listing below is rather short since the LPs are all long out of print and I don't collect them all. USA '81 (various, FM); 90 min; 9.5 s; "Time is on Our Side"/many others The various FM broadcasts are on many different LPs and CDs. As with the '78 broadcasts, different versions of some songs are available. The official live album "Still Life" overlaps with these broadcasts. Excellent quality on almost all releases; some CDs are copied from old LPs. Philadelphia 9/25/81; "Ain't It Good to be Alive"/ others Tour opener. I quote from an Undercover review: "Clearest of all recordings [of this show]. Complete show. Slight hiss throughout which reveals intermittent tape flaws (static sounding). Strong bass, vocals, piano and drums, but weak guitar. Charlie's cymbals are very crisp." Goes on to say it's better than "Philadelphia '81," for which I quote from an Undercover review: "...'Tops' was performed here... As [usual with early shows], the band is a bit less polished than later in the tour, but they played this show with an edge that was clearly lacking as the tour progressed..." Philadelphia 9/26/81; "Waiting on 50 Million Friends" Originally available on LP; also available on CD, for which I quote an Internet review: "...as is the case with most new Stones tours, [this performance] contains rarely played songs like Mona and Down the Road Apiece... [The CD] also has bonus songs from the New Jersey Meadowlands... Though it is an audience recording, IMO it ranks right up there with the better known soundboards from this tour in terms of performance and indeed sound quality... After the very first song though the recording remains perfect throughout... The guitars are very strong throughout, but the major reason I love this title so much is the piano playing which you hardly hear on any other titles..." As is frequently the case, an upgraded CD has now appeared, for which I quote an Undercover review: "Richer, fuller sound but nothing groundbreaking here. Unfortunately, VGP decided to lop off the two bonus tracks that appeared at the end of the first edition. Too bad, but I do like the sound better here." Buffalo 9/27/81; ___ min; "Buffalo '81" I quote an Undercover review: "This is a GREAT audience recording... There is little crowd noise and it's nice and clear. Also this neat gem contains the rare '81 tour track TOPS." Also includes Down the Road Apiece. Los Angeles 10/11/81; "Never Too Old to Rock and Roll" Said to be "an above average audience recording." This CD title is lifted from an LP title of the same show, but I don't know if the recording is the same. Seattle 10/14/81; 125 min; "What's Wrong with My Guitar"/ 1 other I quote from the following unpublished review: "The first ever audio release of [this] show, and not a good one. [It's] basically the same (good) video soundboard as the 10/15/81 Seattle show but right from the start the sound is distorted. It makes the show very hard to listen to. The real attraction in the setlist on the back cover is Starf*cker, but beware: Starf*cker is not played here. The show is also available together with the 10/15 Seattle show as a box set 'Stoned Screwed & Tattooed in Seattle,' [which] includes the two videos from the shows." Seattle 10/15/81; 125 min; 8.5 m; "Now We Need You More Than Ever"/ 3 others Raw recording from a pro-shot video, but I like it. Good sound mix with lots of guitar. First available on the hard-to-get Terappin (sic) label, a similarly titled CD is now out from VGP. I haven't heard it, but Internet reviews says it is the definitive release. "Bloody Night in Seattle" isn't quite as good, and runs a bit slow. "Stoned Screwed & Tattooed" is said to be either not quite as good or better than the VGP release, depending on which review you believe; I haven't heard either for comparison. San Francisco 10/18/81; "Candlestick Park '81" I quote an Undercover review: "...You've got to hear how crisp it sounds to believe it. It's an audience [recording] that sounds BETTER than a lot of soundboards! Has the rarely played Star Star too..." Houston 10/28/81; "Houston Can You Sing" I quote an Internet review: "...It's a video soundboard in much the same quality as Seattle 81 minus the ever present 'hum'... The sound improves nicely after the first couple of tracks leaving this 'raw' soundboard intact... The mix is steady once the sound levels out with the vocals quite clear and the guitars right up front..." Chicago 11/22/81 w/M. Waters; 35 min; EX _; "Sweet Home Chicago" The Stones pay tribute to one of their heroes by playing with him and other Chicago blues stars in a small club. Semi-professionally recorded and filmed (the film has the wrong date). Worth seeing, or settle for the audio. Tempe, AZ 12/13/81; EX _; "Satisfaction Guaranteed" This show was professionally recorded for the King Biscuit Flower Hour radio show, and filmed for the "Let's Spend the Night Together" movie. Now an almost complete soundboard recording has turned up. I quote an Undercover review: "Excellent soundboard, which many have heard in the movie... However, here the music isn't edited to death like the movie was. You get the full blown concert without the requisite studio overdubs. A definite keeper!" Another Internet review said, "...superb soundboard quality, better than Hampton!" Kansas City 12/14/81; 140 min; 8.0 s; "Didn't We Meet Somewhere Before"/ others Previously available on other CDs from an inferior source, this show features special guest Mick Taylor. Rumor has it he was to play at the upcoming pay per view in Hampton, but he was too loud on stage, pissed Keith off, and there weren't any guests in Hampton. Regardless of his volume on stage, it's hard to pick out his guitar from the other two on this fine audience recording. This recording is very clear with moderate audience noise but nothing objectionable; the cheering adds to the atmosphere. Hampton, VA 12/18/81; 140 min; 10.0 s; "20 Flight Rock"/many others Pay-per-view cable special available on many different LPs and CDs. Of course videos also circulate. Excellent recording, unsurprisingly. I think a few songs are on the official live album "Still Life." The listed CD is said to be better than the well known Swingin' Pig title, which is said to be overly NoNoised. The latest release is on Dandelion, a re-release of TSP's version, but I haven't heard it. The next tour was the 1982 European tour, which was musically similar to the 1981 tour. Typical set for 1982 European tour: Under My Thumb, When the Whip Comes Down, Let's Spend the Night Together, Shattered, Neighbors, Black Limousine, Just My Imagination, 20 Flight Rock, Going to a Go Go, Chantilly Lace (first part of tour), Let Me Go, Time is on My Side, Beast of Burden, Let It Bleed (first part of tour), You Can't Always Get What You Want, Little T&A, Tumbling Dice, She's So Cold, Hang Fire, Miss You, Honky Tonk Woman, Brown Sugar, Start Me Up, Jumping Jack Flash, Satisfaction. Played infrequently: Angie. About two thirds of the tour dates are available on vinyl. Rotterdam 6/2/82; "Hot Hot Hotterdam" This is a CD-R from a new "label." I quote from an Undercover review: "Overall the sound is somewhat bassy especially Charlie's bass drum but the bass level improves during the course of the recording only to pick back up during the last 1/3 of the show. Keith is way upfront at the start of the show and mixes in at a more level range as Ron at the end... However, Woody's solos' are turned up just at the right time. Mick remains at a constant level and is quite clear. Some 'waviness' as I call it occurs throughout the recording as if someone is moving with the recorder or there is wind... but [it] is subtle enough to not be too distracting. The nearby audience... remains polite during the show [but] their clapping and singing become more evident at MY onward. One obvious distraction to the recording is some guy who calls out the next number that he thinks will be played. He obviously followed the '81 tour as he is right on except when Mick throws out Chantilly Lace...! Sound quality rates well overall and makes this [mono] recording... very comparable to other '81/'82 audience recordings. This basically opening night of the '82 tour recording is rare and can be appreciated by most hard core collectors... The performance is very loose and upbeat and would be hard pressed to be considered a typical opening night show. Woody flat out WAILS. Keith is tight and Charlie is managing the pace of the songs like a master. The few minutes of rare interviews with Mick by Dutch radio only adds to the completeness of these discs..." Rotterdam 6/4/82; VG+ ; "Rotter' Beast of Bourbon" First available on LP; now out on CD using the same title. I quote from an Internet review: "Although it's a nice show, this is really for the people who were there as the sound is not very good. It's a decent audience recording for the time, but it could have been better. All the audience participation (me included!) doesn't make it better although the atmosphere is great. Complete show with intro 'Take The A Train' and 3 minutes of fireworks at the end." "Chantilly Lace" is said to be only G+ quality. Berlin 6/8/82; "Beast of Bourbon" I quote an Undercover review: "No question the best audience recording from the '82 tour... All instruments are here, especially the guitar (the acoustic on Waiting on A Friend is the best I've heard). It's the complete show... A must have for 81/82 tour enthusiasts." Previously available on a European LP with the same title, which I have, and it's nowhere near as good as this CD must be. Munich 6/10/82; "Willkommen in Munchen" I quote from an Undercover review: "A very good audience recording with radio broadcast reports interspersed throughout... Sound is upfront, only a shade less in quality than 'Beast of Bourbon' and 'Demain le Soleil.'" Paris 6/13/82; VG ; "Demain le Soleil" I quote from an Undercover review: "A very good audience recording, but the sound is a bit condensed. Doesn't sound as good as 'Beast of Bourbon,' but a keeper nonetheless." Entire show. Gothenburg, Sweden 6/19/82; 130 min; 8.0 m; "One More Time" Quite good audience recording. Rare LP, copied as "Never Stop" which is now out on CD. I quote from an Undercover review of the CD: "...IMO it's an excellent audience recording and a keeper. Sure the audience is present, but to me it enhances the show. This one and 'Beast of Bourbon' are two of my favorite '82 tour releases." Wembley, London 6/26/82; 45 min; 9.0 m; "One Day in June" Rare German LP made from a BBC video (never broadcast?). Also on a Japanese CD with the same title. This is apparently the show where Keith punches Ronnie for spacing out on stage. That's not on the video, but the start of "She's So Cold" is incredibly bad and the entire concert is pretty lame. Naturally this is a really good recording. Turin 7/11/82; "Mundialito 1982" Available on a nicely packaged LP and a CD. The LP does not sound too good. For the CD, I quote an Undercover review: "Average at best audience recording with quite a bit of hiss throughout. Not an essential title, except for completists. Angie was played here..." Naples 7/17/82 + hotel/backstage; 102 min; 9.0 m/EX s; "Shattered in Europe" The concert portion of this is 76 min. It's a very nice soundboard, well balanced with a little too much MJ. Sounds like a pretty good performance; this is a must for any '82 tour fan. Minor speed variation at the end though. Keith's (and Ronnie's?) backing vocals are very ragged; kind of amusing. Not all pressings have the second CD, which I have not heard. I quote from an Undercover review: "...It is a loose [26] minute jam with Keith and Ron. There are some very ragged ( fun) versions of 'Hit the Road Jack' and a Hank Williams song complete with the raspiest, most off-key vocals you can imagine K and R coming up with. I find it to be enjoyable, but many don't. It's certainly not essential." Due to tensions within the band, there was no touring again until 1989. Outtakes are available for "Dirty Work." "Dirty Work" outs. 7-11/85; "Crushed Pearl"/others I quote an Undercover review: "...a truly excellent boot. The sound quality is very good, although faint hiss can be detected on some tracks. The guitar playing and interchange on tracks like One Hit and Dirty Work are real razor- blade stuff. Dynamic. If only these takes had been on the album... The real goodies on this CD are the Keef tracks, and there are plenty of them. Crushed Pearl is truly awesome; a 10 min Too Rude that's *sooo* laid back; the CMTV (but good) treat Me Like a Fool and the Sleep Tonight-esque You're Too Much are all worth getting the CD for IMHO. There's also an out from the (very) rough hotel demos, Broken Hearts for Me and You. Definitely one to look out for." After much speculation if there would ever be another tour, the Stones finally toured the US in 1989 in support of "Steel Wheels." For the first time, most of the live material was not from the new album. Each concert was a look back on their long career, and they performed songs that had never been attempted live. The band also used a much larger cast of supporting musicians than in the past. The Stones "toured" Japan in February 1990 by playing in Tokyo for about 10 days. Typical set for 1989 Steel Wheels US tour: Start Me Up, Bitch, Sad Sad Sad, Undercover of the Night, Harlem Shuffle, Tumbling Dice, Miss You, Ruby Tuesday, Play with Fire, Rock and a Hard Place, Mixed Emotions, Honky Tonk Woman, Midnight Rambler, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Little Red Rooster (not at all shows), Before They Make Me Run or Can't Be Seen, Happy, Paint It Black, 2000 Light Years from Home, Sympathy for the Devil, Gimme Shelter, It's Only Rock and Roll, Brown Sugar, Satisfaction, Jumping Jack Flash. Played infrequently: Shattered, Salt of the Earth, Dead Flowers, One Hit to the Body, Angie, Almost Hear You Sigh, Terrifying. Most shows are available as audience recordings. The sophisticated sound system plus improvements in tape recorders and microphones means some audience recordings are very good indeed. Toad's Place, CT 8/21/89; "One Down 55 to Go!" I quote from an Internet review: "It's a club gig [before the start of the tour]... Another damn good AUD recording..." Toronto 9/3/89; "Sweet Toronto"/1 other I quote from an Internet review: "The Toronto soundboard (which comes from a pro shot video) is already well known from the Swingin' Pig release 'Live In Toronto.' The soundboard is incomplete; it's the show from the beginning to Mixed Emotions (and a piece of Honky Tonk Women) and from Gimme Shelter to the end. The middle part (Honky Tonk Women to Sympathy is not available as soundboard). VGP added the Continental Drift intro and the missing tracks from a not too good audience tape; the quality decreases drastically within the track Honky Tonk Women... So if you must have the complete show, this is the release for you, otherwise stick with the TSP release which contains the soundboard part only in the same quality." Toronto 9/4/89; "Wheeler Dealers" I quote from an Undercover review: "...audience tape of complete show... An excellent recording... ...very little crowd heard here. The music is strong w/ some lesser played gems like one hit to the body. A definite keeper." This was previously available on an LP with the same title. East Troy, WI 9/9/89; "Wheels Are Rolling"/2 others I quote from an Internet review: "There were 2 releases of this show available before: 'Wisconsin Flat' and 'East Troy 1989.' Both were incomplete (missing Rock And A Hard Place, One Hit To The Body, 2000 Light Years and--at least partly--Jumping Jack Flash). The quality of the new VGP release is only slightly better and they added the missing tracks from a very good audience tape, so it's the complete show now; also the Continental Drift intro is there now. But: they took Jumping Jack Flash completely from the audience tape though on Wisconsin Flat we have the first 4:40 as a soundboard!!!..." LA 10/19/89; "Live at the LA Memorial Coliseum"/2 others Hmmm. I haven't heard this one, but have seen two drastically different reviews. One said: "...The guitars are right up from where they belong, Keith's will make your ears bleed (unfortunately, the stage hands dropped the guitar volume on a couple of songs)... The best release from the 89 tour bar none and that includes Atlantic City, Wembley, and Tokyo..." The other review noted that there is another CD of the same recording but with one extra song, and said neither is that great: "...'Get Back To Los Angeles 1989' is a mediocre stage soundboard, with Mick Jagger's voice a littler louder than I like it in the mix. The sound quality is identical [to "Live at...]." Until I hear this, I'll trust the review that this isn't so hot. "Get Back..." was later re-released as "At The Max To The End" in similar quality. Dallas 11/11/89; 145 min; 8.5 m; "Texas Rangers"/1 other Again, made from a pro-shot video. Later released as "The Boys Are Back In Dallas" in similar quality. Atlanta 11/21/89; 120 min; EX ; "Back in Business" Atlantic City 12/19/89; 150 min; 10.0 s; many CDs + videos Widely available, since this was on both pay per view and FM. Includes special guest John Lee Hooker. Relatively recent releases are by Dandelion, possibly with bonus tracks, and VGP, for which I quote from an Internet review: "...It's made from a different source tape than TSP's box and sounds slightly different but I wouldn't say better. The Continental Drift intro starts a bit earlier and the outro ('Carmen') is also included. It seems to be taken from the TV while the TSP is probably from the radio (because of the pre and after show radio documentation on disc 4). [VGP] added 7 live tracks from Flashpoint singles (but forgot 'Gimme Shelter' from the Food benefit!),[but] we fans have these singles [already]. So I still really don't know what this release is good for. And the Swingin' Pig box is so much nicer!" Tokyo 2/24/90; "Steel Wheels Alive and Rollin' 1990" Said to be a soundboard recording with 3 audience tracks from other Tokyo shows. I quote from an Internet review: "It is a mono soundboard, and good but not great... almost no crowd noise, a little flat sounding; this sounds like it came from the video mix..." Tokyo 2/26/90; 140 min; 10.0 s;"Steel Wheels Tokyo 1990"/ others Available on several LPs and CDs but this is said to be the only release which is complete. Japanese CD. The 1990 Urban Jungle Tour was musically similar to the Steel Wheels tour. Typical set for Urban Jungle Tour: Start Me Up, Sad Sad Sad, Harlem Shuffle, Tumbling Dice, Miss You, Almost Hear You Sigh, Ruby Tuesday, Rock and a Hard Place, Mixed Emotions, Honky Tonk Woman, Midnight Rambler, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Can't Be Seen (3/4 of shows), or Before They Make Me Run (1/4 of shows), Happy, Paint It Black, 2000 Light Years from Home, Sympathy for the Devil, Street Fighting Man, Gimme Shelter, It's Only Rock and Roll, Brown Sugar, Jumping Jack Flash, Satisfaction. Played infrequently: Bitch, Angie, Dead Flowers, Factory Girl, Blinded by Love, Terrifying, Little Red Rooster, I Just Wanna Make Love to You. Most shows are available as audience recordings. Frankfurt 5/27/90; "Frankfurt Shuffle" I quote from an Internet review: "The mix is slightly off... all instruments except Charlie's drums are a little too low... I would give this a VG+ rating, and it seems to be the complete show." Cologne 5/30/90; "Remember These Days" I quote from an Undercover review: "An above average audience recording at best. A bit distant, which seems to be prevalent with the Urban Jungle tour recordings so far... Unless you are a big fan of this tour, I would not recommend this one." Title is taken from a 1991 LP of the same show, but this CD is complete unlike the LP. Madrid 6/16/90; "Blinded by Love for the Gypsy Kings" I quote from an unpublished review: "...to my ears the best Steel Wheels/Urban Jungle soundboard I've heard. Full stereo 'actively mixed' drum rolls go from channel to channel, even. Guitars are mixed up for solos, and so on. This set tops even the VGP Japan Steel Wheels stereo set (they had one mono sndbrd from the same series of shows). This is what the official Flashpoint CD should have been, IMHO... I'm not a big latter-era fan, but this is certainly a welcome addition, especially at the current exchange rate." First released on a CD-R, "Blinded by Love," apparently not as good. Paris 6/25/90; VG+ ; "The Singer and the Fly" Audience recording. Basel, Switz. 6/27/90; 145 min; 7.5 s; "Basel '90" Fairly good audience recording. London 7/7/90; 135 min;10.0 s; "Seventh of July" From a BBC broadcast. I find Chuck Leavell to be very annoying during "Midnight Rambler." Rome 7/26/90; "Rome 1990" I quote an Internet review: "It's NO soundboard, the cover information is wrong! It's an audience recording, no bad one but no particular good one either. The show is also nothing special. So forget this release unless you need everything." Berlin 8/13/90; "August Children" Said to be a very good to excellent audience recording. Outtakes from the Stones' next studio album "Voodoo Lounge" first turned up on a 4 CD set. Voodoo Lounge outtakes 7&9/93?; ___ min; 10.0 s; "Voodoo Brew" It's almost scary how good this recording is. Whoever lifted these tapes was definitely an insider. Some people have said they prefer these versions to the official release. Nice box set packaging but some people don't like the cover art. Some pressings of these CDs are now deteriorating though apparently cleaning the CDs can fix the problem. Voodoo Lounge outtakes 7&9/93?; ___ min; 10.0 s; "Voodoo Stew" The follow up to Voodoo Brew. Quality is once again outstanding. Some people prefer this to Voodoo Brew. The only question is, are 8 CDs of outtakes really necessary? Voodoo Lounge outtakes 7&9/93?; ___ min; 10.0 s; "Voodoo Residue" Another 2 CDs worth of outtakes. I quote from an Internet review: "...more studio quality (JUMP OUT AT YA quality, as I would say!) rejects and first cuts from 'Voodoo Lounge' sessions in Barbados. I have only listened to the first disk ('Jamming with Richard') and most seems to be Keith solo numbers. Liner notes indicate that only Mick, Keith, and Charlie are in the studio on both disks, and bass is covered by Keith or Mick when present. Some tracks are pretty great and some are a snorefest, at least to my mind. Overall, I'd say if you like 'Voodoo Brew' and/or 'Stew,' this is another must have!" Originally released on CD-Rs; re-released on normal CDs. In 1994 the Stones went on tour again, in support of "Voodoo Lounge." This was their first tour after the departure of bass player Bill Wyman; his replacement Darryl Jones is not a permanent band member. Typical set list for Voodoo Lounge Tour: Not Fade Away, *, Tumbling Dice, **, You Got Me Rockin', Shattered, Rocks Off, Sparks Will Fly, Satisfaction, Beast of Burden, ***, ^, Memory Motel or Wild Horses, ****, #, Miss You (not at first show), ##, ###, ####, @, @@, @@@, I Go Wild, Honky Tonk Woman, Before They Make Me Run or Happy, The Worst, @@@@, Love Is Strong, Monkey Man, Street Fightin' Man (preceded "Brown Sugar" until beginning of September), It's Only Rock 'n' Roll, Start Me Up (followed "Monkey Man" until beginning of September), Brown Sugar, Jumpin' Jack Flash (encore). Sometimes played: *Undercover of the Night (first two DC shows only), **Live With Me, ***Out of Tears, ****No Expectations (Club gig and Cleveland 8/28 w/Lenny Kravitz), #All Down the Line, ##Hot Stuff (first DC show only), ###Can't Get Next to You, ####Brand New Car, @Sad Sad Sad (Toronto 8/19 only), @@It's All Over Now, @@@Heartbreaker (added Philadelphia 9/23), @@@@Sympathy for the Devil (added Las Vegas 10/14), ^Far Away Eyes (added San Antonio 11/5) Played only in Miami November 25: Live with Me (with Sheryl Crow), Stop Breaking Down (with Robert Cray), Who Do You Love (with Bo Diddley), acoustic set of Angie, Dead Flowers, and Sweet Virginia. Several songs dropped for this show to make room for the special ones. Most if not all shows are available as audience recordings. Toronto 7/19/94 club gig; 75 min; 7.5 m; "Secret Gig" Audience recording. Not great by modern standards but listenable. Missing the first song, a rare Japanese double CD has it. Washington, DC 8/1/94; 135 min; 8.5 s; "First Night Stand"/others State of the art audience recording. Other CDs are not as good unless they are copied from this one. As this was the first night of the tour, there are many CDs to choose from. Washington, DC 8/3/94; 135 min; 7.0 s; "Welcome to Washington" This is the only release of the second show of the Voodoo Lounge tour. This is not a great recording, but it's listenable. Birmingham, AL 8/6/94; "Out For Blood" Best audience recording from the '94 Tour according to the Fingerprint File. Giants Stadium 8/14/94; "Bite the Big Apple"/ others Soundboard recording. The source tape is said to be a bit bass-heavy, with too little high end, but not too bad. The official video is apparently taken from parts of this show; it's on the "Sparks Will Fly" CD. Giants Stadium 8/15/94; EX s; "The Circus is Back in Town" /others Toronto 8/19/94; VG s; "Out for Blood" Philadelphia 9/23/94; VG m; "Honky Tonk Motel" New Orleans 10/10/94; EX s; "Imperial Heartbreakers"/ others Very muddy sounding radio broadcast. This is on many, many CDs. The listed title is said to be the best of them. This show was remixed for an edited re- broadcast the week of June 26, 1995, which I happened to hear part of. It sounded much better; this is now available on disc 1 of the Japanese "But Naked" CD. (Disc 2 is the Stripped TV show). The radio show CD is Westwood One Superstar Concert Series show #95-27. Las Vegas 10/14&15/94; VG+ s; "Voodoo Lounge Lizards" San Diego 10/17/94; "Kiss Your Baby" I quote from an Internet review: "...[I]t sucks. Pick it up in a trade if you can, but don't shell out the money for the originals, simply NOT worth it. There are plenty of good 'Voodoo' s/b recordings available, I have NO idea why this was even released. No, wait a minute, I know exactly why, becuase people like me will snap up s/b recordings figuring that they HAVE to be good. Lesson learned." Oakland 10/31/94; 129 min; 9.5 s; "All Hallow's Eve"/ others Made from a pro-shot video. This is the first non-broadcast pro-shot video of this tour to become available. Some people prefer the sound of "Voodoo at Halloween." I quote from an Internet review of the latter: "...What makes this show so superior to the Miami pay-per-view and the New Orleans show is that the guitars are way up (for the Voodoo Lounge Tour) in the mix. Plus, it's a great Halloween night performance! The only down side is that there is very little audience presence in between songs, since this was the actual PA mix..." Miami 11/25/94; EX s; "Miami Dice"/many others Pay-per-view cable special and also a radio broadcast. Much better sound than the original New Orleans broadcast. CDs made from the radio broadcast lack "Beast of Burden." The listed CD is said to be direct from the satellite feed, which had cleaner sound than local cable or radio stations. Another opinion says the best is "Live At Joe Robbie Stadium" from TSP. After playing Vancouver, BC, December 18 (Keith's birthday), the North American Tour ended. The tour continues in 1995 with dates in Mexico, South America, South Africa, Japan, Australia, and Europe. Several 1995 set lists have been posted to Undercover, here they are: Rio, Feb. 4: Not Fade Away, Tumbling Dice, You Got Me Rocking, It's All Over Now, Live With Me, Sparks Will Fly, Satisfaction, Out Of Tears, Angie, Midnight Rambler, Rock And A Hard Place, I Go Wild, Miss You, Introductions, Honky Tonk Women, Happy, The Worst, Sympathy For The D., Monkey Man, Street Fighting Man, Start Me Up, It's Only Rock'n Roll, Brown Sugar, Jumping Jack Flash Santiago, Chile Feb. 19: Not Fade Away, Tumbling Dice, You Got Me Rocking, Rocks Off, Rock And A Hard Place, Sparks Will Fly, Satisfaction, Angie, Out Of Tears, Love Is Strong, It's All Over Now, I Go Wild, Miss You, Honky Tonk Woman, Before They Make Me Run, Slipping Away, Sympathy For The Devil, Monkey Man, Street Fighting Man, Start Me Up, It's Only Rock and Roll, Brown Sugar, Jumping Jack Flash (encore) Johannesburg, South Africa, Feb. 25: Not Fade Away, Tumbling Dice, You Got Me Rocking, It's All Over Now, Live With Me, Sparks Will Fly, Satisfaction, Out Of Tears, Angie, Rock And A Hard Place, Midnight Rambler, I Go Wild, Miss You, Intros, Honky Tonk Women, Happy, Slipping Away (first performance), Sympathy For The Devil, Monkey Man, Street Fighting Man, Start Me Up, It's Only Rock'n Roll, Brown Sugar, Jumping Jack Flash Tokyo Dome, March 6, 8, 9, and 12: Not Fade Away, Tumbling Dice, You Got Me Rocking, Live With Me (March 6, 12) OR Shattered (March 8) OR All Down The Line (March 9), It's All Over Now (March 6) OR Rocks Off (March 8, 9, 12), Sparks Will Fly, Satisfaction, Angie (March 6, 12) OR Love In Vain (March 8) OR No Expectations (March 9), Sweet Virginia (March 6, 12) OR Dead Flowers (March 8) OR Let It Bleed (March 9), Doo Doo Doo (March 6) OR It's All Over Now (March 8) OR Rock and Hard Place (March 9, 12), Love Is Strong, I Go Wild, Miss You, Honky Tonk Women, Before They Make Me Run (March 6, 9, 12) OR Happy (March 8), Slipping Away (March 6, 8, 12) OR The Worst (March 9), Band Introduction in Japanese, Sympathy For The Devil, Monkey Man, Street Fighting Man, Start Me Up, It's Only R'n'R, Brown Sugar, Jumping Jack Flash (encore) Western Springs, Auckland, NZ April 15: Not Fade Away, Tumbling Dice, You Got Me Rocking, Shattered, All Down The Line, Sparks Will Fly, Satisfaction, Beast of Burden, Angie (acoustic), Sweet Virginia (Acoustic), I Go Wild, Miss You, Honky Tonk Women, Before They Make Me Run, Slipping Away, Sympathy For The Devil, Gimme Shelter, Street Fighting Man, Start Me Up, It's Only R n R, Brown Sugar, Jumping Jack Flash Amsterdam, Holland, May 27 (club gig): Not Fade Away, It's All Over Now, Live with Me, Let It Bleed, Beast of Burden, Angie, Wild Horses, Sweet Virginia, Dead Flowers, Still a Fool, Down in the Bottom, Shine a Light, Like a Rolling Stone, Jump on Top of Me, Connection, introductions, Before They Make Me Run, Slipping Away, Monkey Man, Can't Get Next to You, All Down the Line, Rip This Joint, Respectable Nijmegen, Holland, June 13: Not Fade Away, Tumbling Dice, You Got Me Rocking, It's All Over Now, Live With Me, Sparks Will Fly, Satisfaction, Beast Of Burden, Wild Horses, Like A Rolling Stone, Gimme Shelter, Rock And A Hard Place, I Go Wild, Miss You, Introductions, Honky Tonk Women, Before They Make Me Run, The Worst, Sympathy For The Devil, Street Fighting Man, Start Me Up, It's Only Rock 'n Roll, Brown Sugar, Jumping Jack Flash Naturally most of these shows are available as audience recordings. Rio de Janeiro 2/4/95; ___ min; EX s; "Bucketful of Water"/others From a TV broadcast. Some releases are apparently mono. Buenos Aires 2/16/95; 140 min; 10.0 s; "Sympathy for the Voodoo Cult"/ others This is said to be a soundboard recording, as opposed to the more common broadcast or audience recording. Based on my brief listen, I'd say it could be a broadcast. The sound is extremely good and so is the mix: The guitars are very loud and the keyboard is way down. I quote from an Internet review for another title, "Inside the Voodoo Lounge:" "...it's a killer! Not only are they playing well but I don't think I've EVER heard quite the defined sound as on this CD! The bass just booms out and the guitars cut through like I've never heard before! One strange thing... is that during the intros it sounds like a funky audience recording...you hear people near the taper talking etc., yet once they start up the music, the aud disappears and the incredible fidelity returns!..." Santiago, Chile 2/19/95; ___ min; EX s; "Southern Quotations from Chile 1995" This has received some very good reviews but I haven't heard it. It is said to be a raw, in your face recording; definitely the kind I prefer. It's apparently from an FM broadcast. The CD title is reminiscent of a '78 vinyl LP; Vinyl Gang pays tribute to their predecessors once again. Johannesburg, S.A. 2/25/95; ___ min; 9.5 s; "Everything But The Cobra"/ others From a TV broadcast, except "Rock and a Hard Place" is an audience recording from 2/24, due to a commercial during the broadcast. Slightly tinny sound or this would be a 10. "Johannesburg '95" is said to be slightly better, with RAAHP substituted from Buenos Aires. Tokyo 3/12/95; ___ min; 10.0 s; "F*ckin' Tired"/ many others This was a pay per view TV broadcast so sound should be excellent on any release. I am told that some have a glitch at one point; sorry don't know which ones. This is also out as a legit 2 laser disc set and probably VHS video as well. The recording is perfect on the listed CD, which also includes a third CD of songs done at other shows, from audience recordings. "Honky Tonk Tokyo" is also said to be top notch, from the laser disc. Tokyo 3/16/95; "Hope You Guess My Name" Said to be an audience DAT Recording, with a slight echo. Melbourne, Austr. 3/27/95; VG ; "Keef Sings Slippin' Away"/ others Melbourne, Austr. 3/28/95; "Voodoo Rain Dance"/others Said to be one of the best audience recordings from the '95 Tour. "Keef Sings Happy" is inferior. Amsterdam 5/26/95 1st; "Through The Secret Nights, Paradiso 1995" I quote from an Internet review: "Cutting to the chase: the sound quality on this is, for the most part, significantly inferior to any of the other 1995 club gigs. Disc 1 is especially difficult, especially the first half dozen songs, because Mick's vocals have a hollow, distant quality, and the band is not particularly prominent...but the crowd singing, talking and clapping along is well-documented... The guitars become more prominent, however, through the rest of disc 1 and through disc 2 and the sound quality for the most part improves significantly the rest of the way..." The last couple songs are missing. An Undercover review: "This audience recording is very good until toward the end of CD 2 where the sound gets pretty muffled (taper hiding his mic?), then the finale is a perfect soundboard version of SFM which may have even come from Stripped(?). ...The crowd is a bit intrusive at times (VERY PUMPED), but doesn't really detract from the quality." Paradiso 5/27/95; "Foottapers And Wheel Shunters Club Gig"/others I quote from an Undercover review: "This is the show that 80,000 (!) people watched at a video screen (while 1100 were inside Paradiso) and it's an excellent (acoustic) show with a very interesting setlist (arguably better than Olympia or Brixton)... Not superb sound, probably because the sound system wasn't prepared for a show on such a big square, but it's miles better than 'Marvelous Mickey' or other releases." Available on 2 different Japanese CDs in similar quality. Some people claim the Vinyl Gang release sounds better; others claim the Real Live release sounds the same and like the fact that it omits the long pauses between songs. Stockholm 6/3/95; 8.5 s; "Voodoo, I Like It" Very nice audience recording, based on a brief listen. Also includes 1 song from Helsinki June 6 and 3 songs from a TV broadcast of this show; broadcast songs are perfect. Nijmegen 6/13-14 + Landgraaf 6/18/95; "Voodoo Lounge Holland" A 3CD Box of all songs played at these shows plus a 4th CD with the songs from Rotterdam 8/29-30 not played in Nijmegen/Landgraaf, plus JJF. I quote from an Internet review: "[Don't buy] unless you 'really' like to hear LOUD cross- talk, out of tune sing-a-longs and shitty stadium recordings in crystal clear sound!" Also available without the 4th CD. Cologne 6/20/95; VG++; "Eau de Cologne" Complete show. This is also the title of an old LP. Hannover 6/22/95; EX-; "Die Cobra im Black" Complete show. Werchter, Belgium 6/24-5/95; "Beast of Belgium" I quote from an Undercover review: "...a fantastic recording... all instruments well balanced, guitars up front and Mick not at all echoey; the audience really give it much more atmosphere. The performance is also shit hot--they guys sound like they're having more fun not playing the same old US track list... probably the most fun or entertaining big VL gig title around." Paris Olympia 7/3/95; 135 min; 8.5 s; "French Made 95"/others Great audience recording of one of the small venue shows. Interesting song selection and good performance. The listed Japanese CD is said to be considerably better than other, cheaper CDs, which I have not heard. This CD apparently uses a better source tape. London 7/15/95; VG+ ; "London Lounge" Audience recording. Brixton Academy 7/19/95; 128 min; 8.0 s; "Welcome to Brixton Academy"/ others Another club gig with a different set list from Paris/Amsterdam. This is a very nicely done audience recording with a moderate amount of crowd noise. This release is said to be the best for this show. The "Acoustic" CD is said to be poor. Lisbon, Portugal 7/24/95; "Da'Lapa Incident" I quote an Undercover review: "This is a strong and impressive stereo DAT audience recording... They are playing well late in the tour, seemingly well greased, and enjoying themselves... This is one of the better live Rolling Stones documents ever, in spite of a noisy Portuguese crowd." Another Undercover review said: "...[T]he show... is excellent--but the initial assessment of the recording quality still stands: Boomy, and too much audience noise. Still, the performance makes it worth trudging through. Got mine for $15, so I'm not complaining." Montpelier, France 7/27/95 w/Dylan; "Voodoo Minstrels" I quote an Undercover review: "The original issue of this featured a quite mediocre, somewhat muddy audience recording, and a full color photo of Mick and Bob singing together from the same microphone at the show on the front. The new version features a different audience recording, better sound, much clearer vocals, though still not a state of the art aud recording... Also, a different front cover, showing the Stones with a big white dog in front of a house (an outtake of the shot used with the original issue)...and the photo of Mick and Bob together has been flipped to the rear of the CD package, with the track listings to the right." Munich 8/3/95; "Voodoo You Love" Said to be an excellent audience recording. Wolfsburg, Germany 8/25/95; "The Last Incarnation" Said to be a VG++ audience recording. "Stripped" outtakes as well as songs from the TV special not on the album have naturally turned up. "Stripped" sessions; "Stripped Away"/others Made from the 4 known "Stripped" outtakes, the "Hope Floats" track, Stripped TV special tracks, various CD singles, and one track from the Japanese pressing of B2B. Said to sound "as good as any official album," which it should considering the sources. Also said to be better than "Censored" or "Stripped Companion." The Stones' 1997-98 tour was in support of "Bridges to Babylon." Supporting musicians include the usual cast of Darryl Jones, Chuck Leavell, Lisa Fischer, and Bernard Fowler. Audience recordings are common; sound is generally quite good and frequently extremely good, due to the great sound system and modern tape recorders/microphones. An outtakes album has also been rumored, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it, especially because of Keith's comments about having better versions of several songs "in the can" than the ones that ended up on the album. Typical set list for "Bridges to Babylon" tour (USA '97): Satisfaction, It's Only Rock and Roll, Flip the Switch, Let's Spend the Night Together, Gimme Shelter, Sister Morphine, Anybody Seen My Baby, 19th Nervous Breakdown, Out of Control, Star Star, Miss You, All About You (Keith), Wanna Hold You (Keith), Little Queenie*, Crazy Mama*, You Got Me Rockin'*, Sympathy for the Devil, Tumbling Dice, Honky Tonk Women, Start Me Up, Jumping Jack Flash, Brown Sugar (encore). *played on small stage Sets vary from night to night, with some songs in rotation, and one song per night chosen by Internet vote. Chicago club gig 9/18/97; "Behind the Double Door" I quote from an Undercover review: "I haven't heard this start to finish yet, but I've skipped through bits of every track. Everything appears intact here, no major tape glitches that I've discovered yet... The first couple songs Mick's vocals and the guitars are not quite as upfront ...[but].with every track, the guitars, drums and mikes all get better... Just a decent quality aud from a club gig, with a wonderfully rare song, the bluesy Shame Shame Shame. Considering how tight the security had to have been for this gig, I am shocked how good this recording is. BTW, reports that the band sounds ragged in performance here aren't really true A few songs [have] some weaker moments, but that's been true of every show they've done on this tour. For the most part, the band sounds terrific." Note: This is a shorter set than the following stadium shows. Various dates '97-'98; "...You Get The Best Of Me" I quote from an Internet review: "A very nice new European double CD has been released... It contains 30 rare tracks from the BTB American & Japan Tour 1997/98. Many web choice songs are included as well as other tracks they played only once or a few times. With this release you don't need all the average audience recording CDs of the last months to get these rare tracks... All tracks are good-very good audience recordings." However, an Undercover review adds: "I've [compared]... various tracks ... on a line by line basis with the original VGP/CCat CDs and it seems some rather pointless no-noise- type, bass-heavy mastering has gone on (particularly on CD2). This does not seem to have been done on all the tracks, with, for instance, 19th Nervous from Charlotte sounding the same. On some tracks, this is marginal (this whole thing may be marginal to most as I have clinically hyper-sensitive ears)..." Chicago 9/23/97; 7.5 s; "Chicago We Wanna Hold You"/ others This is a decent audience recording but not great. Certainly not as good as you would expect for 1997; the wind seriously affects the sound. Another CD, "Piece of Gold," is 13 songs from a video (international TV?) feed, in incredible 10.0 quality. It could easily pass for an official release in terms of sound. Note that 8 soundboard songs, 3 incomplete, are on "Came to Rock the 10 Spot," below. The best release, over a year after the concert, seems to be "Soldier of Stone," the video and audience sources combined to make the complete show. Chicago 9/25/97; "Sweet Home Chicago"/1 other I quote from an Undercover review: "...[This] is by far the best audience recording I have EVER heard. There's little audience interference and the mix is superb... Puts many a soundboard to shame. In fact, I prefer this one to 'Piece of Gold,' as good as it is." Another Undercover review: "There are some problems with the system mix (e.g. Keith on Satisfaction)... Little Queenie and the small stage stuff sound fantastic, as do the Keith tracks, OoC and the greatest hits section. Rainbow and Morphine are strong, but low on Ron on Morphine... Overall, not much audience talking near the mic, and a clear, sharp recording..." This is said to be better than the more expensive "Another Evening with the Rolling Stones," which uses a different source tape, recorded near annoyingly talkative people. Edmonton 10/2/97; "Canada Dry" I quote from an Internet review: "Soundboard recording. ...very good sound quality. [By mistake] Keith [is] very much in the back[ground] and Ron [is up] front, giving a splendid opportunity to study him, and he does play and does it well! Only on a few [songs] he takes a more or less complete break. ...many of the songs come out rather... differently this way and not at all bad. In fact very good. For example stunning Queenie, 19th Nervous, Mama and SM." Charlotte 10/10/97; "Anybody Seen My Stone in Charlotte" I quote from an Undercover review: "Simply an outstanding audience recording!! Barely any audience noise!" An Internet review said: "Great audience [recording]! So far, best audience [recording] of the Bridges Tour to surface on CD..." Philadelphia 10/12/97; "Philadelphia Special 1997" I quote from an Undercover review: "It's a very good recording, with the only technological complaints being the house's fault: Mick's vocal seems mixed low, there's a (very) brief echo problem, and then there is the sound of the confetti machines during the encore of 'Brown Sugar.' There _is_ significantly annoying audience (and security guard) chatter, but the folks closest to the mikes didn't have too much to say once the show got rolling, which is good, considering how their voices carry (Word of caution: douse the volume during those first three songs. Whoo!). Overall, a top notch audience job." This incomplete CD-R is said to be much better than VGP's similarly titled 2CD set. Giants Stadium, NJ 10/16/97; "Bite the Big Apple Again" I quote from an Undercover review: "10/16 and 10/17 complete. Both are excellent audience recordings, but [as] with 'Scrap of Flesh' (10/17), Mick's vocals sometimes get lost in the mix..." Giants Stadium, NJ 10/17/97; "Scrap of Flesh" I quote from an Undercover review: "A superb audience recording, equal to (at least) Charlotte... first-rate. And the performance strikes me as quite hot, even with Mick apparently forgetting the lyrics to start IORR..." Another Undercover review: "A very good audience recording, but not on a par with 'Sweet Home Chicago...' Sound is very good, but [there are]... some spots where the sound engineer apparently fell asleep on the job..." Also includes two tracks from the 10/16/97 Giants Stadium concert. Boston 10/20/97; "Boston You're Big Enough" Said to be a quite good audience recording, though not as good as the best of the tour. Another report said VG, so it's obviously not one of the best. Port Chester, NY 10/25/97 + misc.; "Came to Rock the 10 Spot"/ others 16 broadcast quality tracks from 3 sources: 5 from "10 Spot," 8 from Chicago opening night, 2 from VH1 Fashion Awards, plus "Angie" apparently from the Japanese B2B. I quote from an Internet review: "...The mixes between the 10 Spot and VH1 versions are much different. In the 10 Spot's 'Baby,' Keith and Ron can easily be heard weaving their guitar work around each other, whereas the VH1 version is blended together better for a smooth full sound and much less of individual sounds..." Also, The "10 Spot," VH1, and 2 songs from Chicago opening night are on "Rock and Roll Babylon," which is said to be inferior to the listed title ("ghastly"). There is also "Out There in Babylon," for which I quote from an Internet review: "All the tracks (and more) have been available on the CD-R 'Came To Rock the 10 Spot', however, this CD benefits from re-mastering, particularly in the bottom end..." Albuquerque, NM 10/30/97; "Mexican Flowers" I quote from an Undercover review: "[This CD] is based on the very good, indeed excellent, mid-field [recording]... long in circulation. As expected, the CD has the audio problem with Brown Sugar, but is otherwise quite alive and clear. IMO, one of the top 5 stadium tapes made on the USA leg of B2B. The Sheryl Crow guest duet on 'Dead Flowers' was marred that night by an audio problem (or prank): Her mike wasn't piped through the stadium PA and is thus *very* faint on the CD. I was in the 2nd row center that night and heard her contribution fairly well, perhaps through the stage monitors. It wasn't until after the show I learned that most of the stadium couldn't hear a word from her..." Another Undercover review said: "[A] very good, nice crisp audience recording, but by no means perfect. There are also some speed problems (though not drastic) in places. It's a pretty sloppy show which gives it a very different feel to many B2B shows..." Oakland 11/14/97; "Liver Than You'll Ever Be 1997" Said to be a very good audience recording. Oakland 11/19/97; "He Didn't Rat Me Out" I quote from an Undercover review of the remastered version: "Far better than I'd anticipated in terms of performance... Sound on this is better than the old 'Rat Out'--more balanced throughout the range, and a little clearer. However, this is not a jaw-dropping 'Sweet Home New York City' 'soundboard' audience recording--the occasional comment still comes through to the mic, but these are not spectacularly intrusive. In some ways, I found the sound reminiscent of 'Live'R' in terms of mix: trebly without being harsh, with the guitars well defined throughout most of the show. Excellent Keith liner shots, dynamic Mick/Keith on the back. Excellent choice of B stage song: LQ, YGMR, Crazy Mama; the latter being especially welcome due to the scarcity of really decent recordings. An exquisite All About You..." Las Vegas 11/22/97; 8.0 s; "Women, Wine and Song" Very nice audience recording. I quote from an Internet review: "...Blows the hinges off the recent Contraband CD 'High Rollers' and destroys Vinyl Gang's 'Viva Las Vegas.' This one is my favorite audience recording from the entire tour! A big clean sound with loud guitars and a spectacular performance." Saint Louis, MO 12/12/97; "Take Me Up St. Louis"/many others Pay per view w/special guests Dave Matthews, Taj Mahal, and Joshua Redman. Due to the many releases, here are summaries of Undercover and Internet reviews: "Take Me Up St. Louis" (VGP)--excellent. "TWA Dome, St. Louis"--has static running throughout most of the recording; avoid. "St. Louis To Babylon" (Eternal Records), 3 CD of PPV plus 3 from Philadelphia 10/12/97 aud., 3 from DC 10/23/97 aud., '10 Spot,' and 'VHI Fashion Awards'--mixed reviews, remastered version probably excellent, aud. tracks "average." Unknown title on Dandelion--mono; avoid. "St. Louis Blues"--probably ok but not confirmed. "From London To St. Louis" (Boss Hawg)--"a great recording," but doesn't include the band intros. "Don't Fuck With Me, Or I will Breathe On You and You Will Die" 3 CD of PPV plus '10 Spot,' Chicago first 2 songs and the VH1 songs,--"more low-end and less highs [and] slight sound fluctuation[s]" MSG, NYC 1/14/98; "Back to the Garden" I quote from an Undercover review: "A very good audience recording, but not quite as up front, clear and consistent as 'Welcome to MSG VIP Lounge' (2nd show). Rarely played songs are: Low Down, Memory Motel, How Can I stop, IORR and Little Red Rooster (Stones at their lovable best natch)." I have also seen this title described as "mediocre" for 1997. MSG, NYC 1/16/98; "Welcome to the Madison Square Garden VIP Lounge" I quote from an Undercover review: "A very good audience recording, which I rate higher than VGP's 1st show 'Back to the Garden.' A better performance IMO with riskier setlist (Respectable, Already Over Me, YDHTMI)..." I have also seen this title described as "mediocre" for this tour. Same recording is also available on the CD-R knockoff "MSG '98 Second Night--Rolling Stones Classic Shows." MSG 1/17/98 + 1/14/98; 9.5 s; "Sweet Home New York City"/ 1 other I quote from an Undercover review: "[This] is one of the best audience recordings ever made. At least CD1. CD2 tends to sound too digital and harsh in comparison... The mix couldn't be much better--everything is pretty much exactly where you would want it--guitars way up front and every instrument balanced with Mick's vocals. It's crisp but gutsy... and has very, *very* little audience interference... For the most part the performance is quite stunning, including the opening numbers (even LSTNT has an energy that seems to have been lacking elsewhere)... The sound on [CD2] is more reminiscent of the Chicago 2nd show on Crystal Cat (no bad thing) than the 1st CD--a bit more trebly perhaps, but still without the lack of crowd noise. CD2 also has 3 bonus tracks from MSG1--Lowdown, MM, Rooster. The sound on these is bassier and more muffled..., and there's more audience presence (but nothing really awful)... If for some peculiar reason you don't delve into audience recordings much, get [this]. For the most part, you'll never remember that it is an audience recording, being a better and more exciting listen than many 'soundboards.' Plenty of rare songs, and a gutsy title. One of the must- haves." Now remastered by Sister Morphine, and said to be even better. VGP's competing release is said to have distorted vocals and is evidently not as good. Honolulu 1/23/98; "Inside the Rainbow" Said to be a "very nice audience recording." Honolulu 1/24/98; "Hawaiian Holiday 1997" Said to be a very good audience recording but not one of the best of this tour. No unusual songs performed here. Portland 1/30/98; "Already Over Me" I quote from an Internet review: "...has the rare title track as a teaser and 5 bonus tracks... Sound of Portland is very, very good audience quality; the bonus tracks differ a bit..." Portland 1/31/98; "Bridges to Oregon" Said to be very good to very good plus audience quality. San Diego 2/3/98; "Radio San Diego 98.3 FM"/ others This was an FM broadcast, so there are at least four releases. The listed title is said to be "a whole step up in sound quality" from the others, except for VGP's remastered (w/o bonus tracks) "Stoned in San Diego," said to be "brilliant." These two CDs are taken directly from the Westwood One broadcast CDs. Other CDs are recorded off the air and somewhat lacking in quality. Houston 2/12/98; "Texan Troubadors" I quote from an Internet review: "...Includes the only tour appearance of Street Fighting Man. Quality is quite nice for an audience [recording]... I'm told this was recorded from the 2nd level at Compaq Center." Hard Rock, Las Vegas 2/15/98 "Where's the Joint?" I quote from two Undercover reviews: "[This] certainly has a boisterous 'taper and neighbors' ambience..." and "...this really is the pits. LQ is [high energy], but it's buried in the mud and the screams of the a**holes taping this. Your ears tell you it was taped in the worst nosebleed seats ever, by a bunch of drunk frat-house guys. One to avoid on CD, but worth listening to at least once for the power of the show. But as far as the recording goes, I cannot _believe_ VGP are putting this crud out." Tokyo 3/98; "Far East 98" I quote from an Internet review: "[It's] a 12 (!) CD set with all 6 Japan 1998 shows from March 12, 14, 16, 17 (all 4 in Tokyo), 20 and 21 (both in Osaka)... I skipped through the Tokyo shows and noticed that the typical Tokyo Big Egg sound is present again: Hollow sound although the instruments are quite sharp; Mick's voice is clearly not as up front as the music, still these are state of the art audience recordings. The Osaka shows sound better; Mick's voice and the instruments are better balanced, sound comes close to excellent. Not sure if I would recommend this set in general; price is high, presentation is minimal, but strong points are the Osaka shows, rare tracks like Angie, Shine A Light and Time Is On My Side to name a few, and the fact that you get Japan 1998 complete." Buenos Aires 3/30/98; "Bridges to Argentina"/others Broadcast on both radio and TV (incomplete). I quote from an Undercover review: "...It is a very flat monaural recording... Audience noise levels are minimal... Whoever did the mixing for this broadcast [was] having some troubles, because the guitars especially, and sometimes the drums, are not properly revealed in the mix. For instance, on the mini-stage, Keith's lead guitar on Little Queenie is almost inaudible, while Ronnie's backup is showcased. In fact, much of the second half of the show finds Keef's guitar quite secondary in the mix. Ronnie's playing is there to hear... There are several songs that are plagued by what appear to be timing errors in which Ronnie and Keef aren't playing in synch with Daryl and Charlie (and not solely on the mini-stage songs)... It is hard for me to tell if this show was poorly played, poorly mixed, or both..." This is apparently the only complete release. "Argentina 1998" is said to be from TV, with a different mix, mono and with lots of Keith. 5 songs are cut entirely and 2 more are incomplete. Also includes 8 bonus tracks from Osaka '98. Rio de Janeiro 4/11/98; 9.0 s; "Rocking in Rio"/ others This was also a TV broadcast, with Dylan on Like a Rolling Stone. The crowd is wild. The listed CD is stereo but has slight distortion. A competing release "Stoned in Rio" is mono, quite noticeable, and slightly thin sounding so overall not quite as good. VGP's remastered "Rio '98" (not "Old Friends From Rio") is said to be "FAR better than SM's 'Stoned In Rio de Janeiro'... excellent full stereo..." so it's probably the definitive release, but I haven't heard it for comparison. Internet reviews have generally complimented the performance but knocked You Don't Have To Mean It and Miss You. Nuremberg 6/13/98; "Welcome Back Keef"/1 other I quote from an Undercover review: "After a lot of more or less bad releases VGP brings out a great quality CD. It's one of the best audience recordings I've ever heard, clear and loud sound, better than the Charlotte [10/10/97] release." An Internet review disagreed somewhat: "...As a band the Stones sound hungry to be back onstage after Keef's accident. However, Mick was becoming ill and his voice is not at its best this night. On disc 2 after the Richards numbers the sound takes a nosedive and remains muffled for the rest of the show..." A competing release on Dandelion is "Ribs to Wrinkles," said to be an "excellent DAT recording" plus the 2 TV broadcast tracks Satisfaction & Out Of Control. Werchter, Belgium 6/21/98; "Gold 'n Glory" I quote from an Undercover review: "It's a good audience job. There's some crowd noise at the predictable spots, but it's not overwhelming. A little bit of oscillation here and there, too. And, unfortunately, the taper was apparently on the field and turned his back to the main stage to watch the small set (!) as these tracks are pretty muffled. The bonus tracks, from show 1 [the previous night] sound good, but are a little more afflicted than the main show with distinct audience conversations (and the tragic timing of a "Charlie!" chant right in the middle of 'Love in Vain'). The performance is _tight_ and extraordinarily competent. Nothing sounds forced, and Jagger especially seems in fine form and mood..." Amsterdam Arena 7/6/98; "It's Only Live" Said to be the complete show, 22 songs without YCAGWYW, good-very good audience, with singing people around the recorder and some echoes. Vigo, Spain 7/18/98; "Vigo" I quote from an Undercover review: "[This] *is* very good. Excellent performance and--highly unexpectedly--really fun to listen to... [T]he audience really makes this title; you can really feel the energy feeding back and forth between them and the band... You're not going to forget you're listening to an audience [recording] and listen to it like a soundboard, but that certainly doesn't make it a terrible CD... Great, dynamic shot of Mick on the cover, and a nice inner liner of the local newspaper coverage. A nice surprise." Includes a bonus track of YCAGWYW from Barcelona, 7/20. Paris 7/25/98; 9.5 s; "Paris '98"/1 other State of the art true soundboard recording. No doubt this is what the Stones have in their archives. I quote from an Internet review: "No doubt; the best sounding CD from the B2B tour. Every detail is crisp and clear and the recording is very detailed; in fact almost too good because the audience is hardly audible so you are missing the atmosphere..." However, an Undercover review said: "...very disappointing. Maybe the sound is crisp but that's not enough for a soundboard. The problem is... that the mix from the sound system is missing (i.e. no audience etc.). That makes a poor and dead sound (no echo etc. for instance on Gimme Shelter). The most disappointing fact is the poor mix itself: Keyboards very, very low, Keith's guitar up front (good!?), and Ronnie is only there in some parts and even then you have to listen very [closely]..." Yet another review said the competing VGP title "Mick's Birthday Party" (not) was slightly better than the listed title. Gelsenkirchen, Germany 7/27/98; "Out of Control" I quote from an Internet review: "Excellent packaging... [S]ound quality is generally excellent--easily in the VG++ range (even to Ex- standards for some), with very little audience noise... Mick's vocals are at the forefront, and both guitars get a decent share of the mix throughout the show; you can actually hear Ronnie through the PA for a change--especially on JJF. While a little more guitar is always welcome, and the B stage stuff is slightly less clear and warm than the main stage tracks, overall, there are few complaints with this ROIO... The performance (this show followed Paris) is far better than I'd anticipated (i.e. 'just another gig'), with Mick seeming to sing more and shout less than in other shows... Well worth seeking out." Also includes two lesser quality bonus tracks from Dusseldorf 6/24/98. Oslo, Norway 8/2/98; "Dead Flowers" Said to have excessive audience noise though a good performance. Also has 3 songs spelled incorrectly! Chorzow/Katowice, Poland 8/14/98; "Chorzow '98"/ 1 other I quote an Internet review: "[This] is the TV broadcast in mono soundboard quality. The [broadcast] signal of the POLSAT TV station is only in mono, so there is most probably no stereo version of this recording existing. The broadcast lacks 3 songs: ASMB, Wanna Hold You, and Little Queenie [plus] the band introduction. VGP included these at the and of disc 2 in good-very good audience quality, so you have the complete show here." Also available on "Bridges To Katowice" in similar quality with Chicago 9/23/97 filler. Berlin 8/26/98; "Still Younger Than The Queen" Leipzig 8/28/98; "Willkommen in Leipzig" Hamburg 8/30/98; "Welcome To The Rolling Stones" I quote an Internet review: "All are very good-excellent audience recordings. I think [VGP] brought out so many shows in the same audience quality in the last months that these releases are not a must to have. They all sound more or less the same and contain more or less the same songs, so it's getting a bit boring hearing them all." Bremen, Germany 9/2/98; 10.0 s; "Rockin' The House Down"/ others From a TV broadcast. I quote from an Internet review: "VGP's 'Die Bremer Stadtmusikanten' is definitely the best Bremen release so far. It's the complete show (without a second missing!), complete in great stereo quality. All previous releases have more or less minor defects... [Sister Morphine] cut out some announcements of Mick... And SM's [release] is NOT a complete stereo recording, but VGP's is. 'Wanna Hold You' and the bridge walk are only in mono on [Rockin' the House Down], but in full stereo on VGP. And the quality of VGP's [release] IS as good as SM's, SM's is NOT by far better." An Undercover review added: "...IMHO [Paint It Black] was more effective in Bremen than in other venues precisely because it was played slower rather than the usual over-rushing that often afflicts the Hot Rocks songs... For a TV performance, most of Bremen is played more intensely than the more typically 'glitzy'/showbiz, laid-back style that we often get. It's a welcome change, with CD1 and much of CD2 being a damn fine listen..." "You Got Me Rocking" is said to be excellent though not quite as good as the listed title, and complete except for the walk to the small stage; also includes the "Hope Floats" soundtrack song "Honest I Do." "Bridges to Bremen" is said to be inferior. Stockholm 9/8/98; "Sweet Home Stockholm" I quote from an Undercover review: "[This] is **the best** audience recording of the entire tour, bar none. This is the best Stones audience recording ever... The vocals, guitars, and drums are superbly captured, and frequently sound close to soundboard quality, without losing the concert ambience and excitement that are often lost in soundboards. This is a remarkable document of the tour. The set list doesn't match MSG3, and the performance isn't quite up to that superlative standard, though it is an excellent performance. Added are three bonus tracks from Gothenburg: IORR, Star Star, and Thief In The Night which are also excellently recorded... I think we will rank this in the Top 10 of all-time Stones boots. Stunning sound, great performance. Hard to beat." A contrasting Undercover review said: "While [this] is indeed an excellent audience recording, with just about no audience interference, IMHO it is nowhere near as good, or as important as 'Sweet Home New York City.' The guitars in Stockholm are not as prominent as on the NYC title, with Mick dominating the mix. However, the main drawback IMHO with Stockholm is that it's a pretty lazy Europe-by-the-book performance. You've heard it all before. Pretty passionless. Mick sounds bored for much of it, delivering an almost unlistenable Flip the Switch, among others. It's a great recording, but as a performance, it's really no great shakes IMHO." Berlin 9/10/98; "Babylonian Knights" I quote from an Internet review: "...The quality is slightly better than the VGP release 'Circus at Waldbuhne.' This Dandelion release has three bonus tracks: Out of Control (Don Was live remix), I Just Wanna Make Love to You (Japanese No Security) and Just My Imagination. This is a sound check from Amsterdam 7/6/98 just 30 minutes before the opening of the gate! 'Circus at Waldbuhne' is still necessary because of Sister Morphine from Werchter 6/20/98." Hamburg 9/30/98; "Bridges To Bahrenfeld" Said to be the complete show and a "nice audience recording of very good quality, only a bit too much hand clapping in my opinion." The Stones' 1999 tour was in support of "No Security." Strangely, this is a tour supporting a live album. Supporting musicians include the usual cast of recent tours though the shows are less glitzy. Audience recordings are very common. With the current popularity of CD recorders, expect lots of semi-professional CD-Rs. I expect there will eventually be one for most shows so keep your eyes open. Typical set list (from Tampa, FL 3/3/99): Jumping Jack Flash, Live With Me, Respectable, You Got Me Rocking, Honky Tonk Women, Moonlight Mile, Saint of Me, Some Girls, Paint It Black, Introductions, Thief in the Night (Keith), Before They Make Me Run (Keith), Out Of Control, Route 66*, When The Whip Comes Down*, Midnight Rambler*, Tumbling Dice, It's Only Rock'n Roll, Start Me Up, Brown Sugar, Sympathy for the Devil (encore) *played on B stage Oakland 1/25/99; "Gimme All Your Money"/ others I quote from an Internet review: [This] is the best ever recording from the first show of any Rolling Stones tour. Brilliant sound quality. It's so crisp, distinct, full, and well balanced. Of course they were not fully perfect at the first show... The most stunning part from Undercover till Silver. Then on Route 66 they are a bit bewildered and it's as if the steam is lost a bit. The quality of course [is] still brilliant. The bonus ones from Sacramento 27th of January are not as good as on 'Kiss of Life' which also is a brilliant one..." Also available on "Stones Age: Opening Night" and "On the Moonlight Mile," said to be similar quality but not as good. Sacramento 1/27/99; "Kiss Of Life"/1 other I quote from an Undercover review: "...unfortunately remastered; yes the sound is better, clearer, but not the raw mean sound as ["Opening Night"]... If you're fond of a clear recording , this is also a must have, very nice artwork, lovely pics of the guys, the CDs are nicely done with the NS tongue and a variant in red and black on the second CD, very lovely. Very great guitar sounds on it and the audience is also really in place (always like that)." Also includes sound check material from earlier in the day, quality is said to be not as good. This show is also available on "Security Is The Worst Enemy" Toronto 2/25/99; "While The Wind Blows Over Toronto" Said to be "excellent," and a better performance than opening night. With four bonus tracks from a rehearsal at the Fillmore on 1/22/99. Philadelphia 3/15/99; "Walking in the Moonlight"/ others I quote from an Internet review: "...It's MONO, there's... some hiss, static crackles pop up once in a while, and there's a little too much echo. But, the sound isn't too bad, if it wasn't for Keith completely missing! On some intro's he is audible, but once the rest of the band comes in, Keith iscompletely gone. Ronnie is really loud, and really irritating... It sounds like he's just making some noise, mostly out of tune, and mostly off beat. I like Ronnie's stuff on songs like You Got Me Rocking, Some Girls and Before They Make Me Run, but on songs like Bitch, Respectable, and Saint of Me of me it sounds horrible on this release. Well, here's the good news: On the small stage Keith and Ronnie apparently switch channels, and now Keith is really loud and Ronnie barely audible! Also, the ever present echo from the main stage is missing here. So, we have excellent versions of Route 66, When the Whip Comes Down and Midnight Rambler!... The artwork looks nice, but could have been better..." MGM Grand Casino, Las Vegas 4/16/99; "Casino Boogie" Said to be "terrific." San Jose 4/20/99; "Last Show In America" I quote an Internet review: "AUD recording, incredible sound, on par with Sister Morphine's quality. Great show! (I went to this one). Seven bonus tracks in quality equal to the main show: Under Cover, Just My Imagination, Shine a Light, I Got The Blues, You Got the Silver, Live with Me, Respectable. Great artwork, but no indication on where the bonus tracks came from." Holland 6/2 and 18/99; "North to South" I quote from an Internet review: "The only *drawback* on this superb album is that they don't tell you where the songs are from... It does not matter as it sounds [like] ONE concert with a most brilliant sound quality: crisp, well balanced, and with a stunning performance all through (must have been on top on both locations) with the whole band very much inspired and musically fantastic. Almost every song has something extraordinary that makes me wanna shout *Best version so far!* Only exceptions [are] Saint of me, Out of control, and Paint it black which... are rather standard and Mick [is] out of tune at the start of SOM on a night (well two...) when he is brilliant in every [other] respect as are all the other players on the field(s). This is a rock 'n' roll ride from start to finish that leaves you exhausted..." Sheffield, UK 6/6/99; "Singing in the Rain" I quote an Internet review: "[This] 2-CDR album done by some unknown... is really a treat and I find it excellent and even more so as it seems to be [their] first try. Very nicely printed CDRs and cool cover in dark green on the front, the poster for the planned show in 98 with a grim Keith to the right of this. In all a brilliant one. And place it without a doubt in the same division as the more established bigger companies' recordings of concerts." Shepherds Bush Empire 6/8/99; "Cow Skins and Pig Shoes"/ others I quote from an Internet review: "[This] CD was released in the same month [as] the concert! Beautiful picture discs labels; they used the tickets of the concert: level1 ticket for disc 1, floor ticket for disc 2. Superb audience recording; doubt [if it] could be any better." Another Internet review added: "...[T]his... has an extremely full sound with the guitars not dominating but heard very well as [they] should be. You find that [the Stones] really [were] very tight having great fun this night. It is rock 'n' roll of the highest quality from the start with the part with odd songs done extremely well and then full force gale again until the very end." Wembley 6/11/99 + Shepard's Bush 6/8/99; "Sweet Home London" I quote from an Internet review: "...[The]... Wembley recording... is very, very good. Definitely worth getting and up to par with the quality Crystal Cat has been offering us. The Shepherd's Bush part is good but there's noticeable tape(?) noise and missing parts of songs (check out the missing intro to 'Melody' for one instance). Obviously they knew it couldn't stand on its own." Wembley 6/11-12/99; "The Complete Wembley 1999 Performances" I quote from an Internet review: "After having listened to the first [night's recording] I was stunned. This is suddenly the best live concert I have. A very full sound, so crisp, so perfectly balanced and very easy to study the individual members. For example it is a joy to listen to the contributions from both guitar players and noone can here doubt the competence of Mr. Wood. [The second night has]... excellent sound quality, with a bit less crispness and a somewhat metallic sound at times, [but] it is obvious that the musicians or some of them are not at their best... One huge exception is a most fantastic Midnight Rambler. Had they gone on in the middle part there the walls of Wembley would have started tumbling down..." Cologne, Germany 6/20/99; "Grande Finale" I quote an Internet review: "So the final gig during this almost two year long tour came. And a set list that does not look very exciting, but with a band that shows not the slightest sign of being tired of it. Instead a brilliant performance all through with some of the best versions... of Out of control, Route 66, Thief in the night, and Like a rolling stone. Excellent sound quality." Will this be the Last Time? The author acknowledges that every living member and ex member of the band has done some sort of solo project. Keith's solo tours of 1988 and 1992-93 have been heavily bootlegged, and Mick's tour of 1988 is also fairly well represented. However, cataloging those releases is beyond the scope of this guide. Plus, I don't collect that material. Notes on collecting CDs: In the United States, every unauthorized release (not made by Virgin, London/Abkco, RSR, etc.) is considered a bootleg. Until 1997, the situation was different in certain countries, which allowed companies like The Swingin' Pig (TSP) to operate legally, to the displeasure of record company accountants. These copyright loopholes have now closed, and companies such as TSP are now out of business. Of course there are still "underground" companies which don't worry about legality. The era of the recordable CD (CD-R) has begun. Anyone with the right computer equipment can burn their own CDs in the convenience of their own home. CD-R "labels" may be the coming thing. General comments on CD companies/labels: The Vinyl Gang Productions and its related label Idol Mind, both Japanese, have released more Stones product than any other label. Dealers rarely import them into the US, but they can be ordered directly from Japan. In 1993-4 they somehow located and released old tapes which were not even circulating among tape traders. For old shows, I consider them the definitive label. For the "Bridges to Babylon" tour, their audience recordings are not always the best for a given show. Shop around! I quote from the Internet: "...in their drive to get 'Bridges' titles into the market they've released more crap than every other label combined." VGP is still the definitive Stones label as of this writing. Crystal Cat has only released a few Stones titles, all audience recordings from the "Bridges to Babylon" tour. All are highly regarded. Sister Morphine is a new (1998) label which only releases high quality Stones material. AFAIK their releases are always the best or close to it for a given show. Dandelion has been releasing old Swingin' Pig titles as well as a few of their own. Generally well regarded but there has been some criticism for using mono broadcast sources and other relatively minor points. Possibly out of business as of fall 1999; back in early 2000? They are apparently successors to Midnight Beat, which also put out a few good titles. The Swingin' Pig is generally good. Most of their CDs are mastered from tapes, unlike some companies which use old records, and they generally use the best available source for a particular show. On the downside, they sometimes overdo the noise reduction, which makes the music sound bassy and compressed. Now out of business. Other Japanese labels will put out anything they think they can sell, it seems. Shaved Disc, now out of business, was almost always bad. Scorpio and related labels such as Gold Standard are also good. Unlike most labels, they have actually put out "new" material. They still aren't above dubbing some tracks off old records here and there. Still in business. Yellow Dog, famed for their Beatles and other releases, has released a 3 CD set of early outtakes in good quality. No recent Stones activity. The Vigatone label has produced only a few Stones CDs but they are all excellent, from tapes. The Chameleon or "Chamelion" label is also excellent. Invasion Unlimited has produced a series of 8 studio outtakes CD. I quote from an Internet review: "[these CDs are] an ok place to start building a collection, if you can find them, but are nowhere near the definitive set. The biggest drawback being that the makers did a hatchet job on many of the outtakes from the '70s, especially Some Girls era songs. Loads of heavy editing analogous to the difference between LP and 45 edits, unless you're into that. They cleaned up some of the songs, but you're still getting crap IMO. More complete versions of many of the outtakes can be found on various other titles." Bottom lin is only get these if you missed the original releases or are just starting collecting. "Terappin" or Terrapin label CDs are very hard to come by but are mostly rare material in decent to good quality. WPOCM, Bulldog, and Oil Well are labels to avoid. All have been out of business for several years. All specialized in dubbing other releases. The first two frequently used scratchy vinyl, then used excessive noise reduction. _Bibliography_ Basement News fanzines. Rodgau, Germany: Dieter Hoffmann Heylin, Clinton. The Great White Wonders: London, England: Penguin, 1994. Hoffmann, Dieter. Das Rolling Stones Schwarzbuch (Black Book). Vaihingen, Germany: New Media Verlag, 1987. Hoffmann, Dieter. Rolling Stones--Das Weissbuch (White Book). Winsen, Germany: New Media Records, 1991. Live! Music Review, December 1993. Musician magazine, September 1994. No Expectations fanzine. No. 9, January, 1992. Lerdala, Sweden: Mats Jarl Stember, Wilfried. The Rolling Stones Collector's File 2. Dortmund, Germany: Stember, 1984. Zentgraf, Nico. Collector's Delight or Collector's Disease? Berlin, Germany: Zentgraf, 1992.

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From: rzepelaa@netaxs.com (Anthony J. Rzepela) Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.stones Subject: Rolling Stones FAQ [3/4] Date: 1 Mar 2000 07:02:39 GMT Message-ID: <89ifaf$i8s@netaxs.com> Archive-name: music/rollingstones-faq/part3 Last-modified: 2000/02/28 Version: 7.02 Rolling Stones' Mailing list/newsgroup FAQ ==================================================== http://www.netaxs.com/~rzepelaa/undercover Part Three The Rolling Stones--A Bibliography Originally prepared and maintained by: Stephen D. Carter (steve@carters.u-net.com) [NOTE: please see the end of this document for a copy of a note supplied by Stephen Carter with the December 1995 issue of this bibliography] /***********************************************************************/ COPYRIGHT 1994-2000 (c) Anthony J. Rzepela (editor) This collection of four works is under the copyright of the editor, who may, at his discretion, relinquish said copyright to the authors named herein. This collection may not be broken up, or be made available by any publisher. It may not be redistributed in any form if any changes are made to it except by the holder of the copyright. The editor of this FAQ retains all rights for use of it. No author or proofreader or assistant credited herein grants the use of his or her name to any publisher. Be warned that attempts to publish this shared work-in-progress may interfere with legal commitments individual authors may privately hold with publishers. /***********************************************************************/ The Rolling Stones, unlike the Beatles seem to have had few even half-decent authors or publishers produce books about them. The majority of the books on this list are, frankly, not too good. A few (Stone Alone, etc) are imperative! Read this list, and the books, with low expectations! This list has been constructed with help from many people. Among them are : Angi Philip Bajo Bruce Dumes Ed Fronczkowiski Dave Heller Jim Henning Jimmy Hodgkins Andy Meuck John O'Sullivan Steve Portigal Tony Rzepela Dirk Stoermann David Wedig Stephen Weinberg Like the Stones, Stephen's a Brit, so are most of the ISBN formats. -------/////00000\\\\\------ Citations list author, title, year, and finally, ISBN. (From Stephen... and Mick, I know you'll see this, so if you ever feel like popping in to autograph any of my stuff, there's no need to ring ahead.) -------------------------------------------------- ed. Bill Buford Granta 84 0140075658 Granta is a quarterly book/magazine of 'New English Writing' Issue 12 consists largely of an extensive extract from Stanley Booth's "True Adventures of the Rolling Stones". ed. David Dalton The Rolling Stones : The Greatest Rock'n'Roll Band in the World 75 0352300922 Quite an early and well written account of the band. It does not attempt to be a 'biography, but is collection of essays/accounts on various aspects. As such it succeeds. (Reissued with updates in 1979) ed. Johnny Dean Record Collector Monthly magazine from the original publishers of both the Beatles and Rolling Stones Monthly Magazines. The issues that have special features are worth getting. Each issue has an 'artists' directory that is up-to-date with the right issues to get for your favourite artists. 43/45 St Mary's Road, Ealing, London, W5 5RQ. UK ed. Johnny Dean The Rolling Stones Book 64 Date unclear, but precedes the Rolling Stones Monthly from the same publishers. Nice photos - a real period piece. Even has a bit about 'The Official Rolling Stones Fan Club' 93/97 Regent St. Now, whatever became of that!? ed. Nicholas Drake The Sixties : A Decade in Vogue 88 1871307260 Vogue magazine has always been noted for the quality of its photo's. Any collation of its Sixties photo's will therefore be both excellent and will contain several shots of the Fabs, the Stones and their chums. Will not disappoint. Will re-stress the astonishing changes in style (etc) that took place during those turbulent years. ed. Jonathan Eisen Altamont - The Forgotten Festival : Death of Innocence ... 3800021715 272 page paperback. A collection of articles, interviews pictures about Altamont. Relic of a bygone era and quite worth the read. (SW) ed. Pete Goodman Our Own Story by The Rolling Stones 64 Wonderful period piece that asserts it is 'as we told it to Pete Goodman'. Written for mass consumption at the start of the band's career. ed. Nigel Grant A Pixerama Foldbook of the Rolling Stones 64 A very early period piece - 12 small photo's of the band in a concertina fold out style. The text is superbly dated, and very wrong in places. 'The lads got their name for the group from a Chuck Berry song 'The Rolling Stones''. Buy it if you ever see it. ed. Mick Jagger The Rolling Stones Monthly Book 64 Short lived (30 issues) monthly 'Official Rolling Stones Book edited by the Stones for their Fans' from the same stable as the still running Beatles Monthly. Despite the fact that it is mostly the product of the imagination of a press/publicity crew it is worth getting if you ever (unlikely) see it. Re-issue long overdue. The London Years 1991 0-89898-739-3 Guitar tabulature and lyrics for all the songs on the 1989 ABKCO 3-CD box set of the same. Published by Warner Brothers Books. No photos. ed. Joyce Robins The Sixties : The Style : The Sounds : The Stars 84 0862731895 A 64 page rush through the music of the turbulent 60's. Produced by Marks & Spencer, so quality is good. Nothing profound, only a bit on the Stones. ed. Robert Love The Best of Rolling Stone 93 0863697690 A compilation of a selection of the best articles from the magazine. Robert Greenfield gets an article about the Stones. Worth getting for this, and all of the rest! ed. Dr Andreas Papadakis Architectural Design : New Architecture 90 1854900293 A special edition of Architectural Design concentrated on 'New Architecture' and included an article by Mark Fisher on his designs for the 1989 Steel Wheels stage - plus some stunning colour photos. ed. Rolling Stone The Rolling Stones 76 A compilation of the main features on the Stones from Rolling Stone covering the first interview in 1968 through to 1975. Excellent. ed. The Rolling Stones et al. (Loewenstein, Dora; Holland, Jools) A Life on the Road 1998 0670880515 Penguin Studio The first-ever Stones' history book made with participation by the band, who are credited as editors. Interviews by veteran musician and talk-show host Jools Holland, and editing by longtime associate Loewenstein, accompany exclusive photographs telling the band's touring history. (Not reviewed.) ed. Brian Roylance (& Bill Wyman) Blinds and Shutters : The Photographs of Michael Cooper 1990 0904351378 Genesis A distressingly beautiful book, full of upsettingly unique photos at a heart-stopping price. Cooper was the 'court' photographer to the Beatles (he did the Sgt. Pepper cover photo) and the Stones (Satanic Majesties) and others. As such these photos are unique. Wonderful. ed. Jack Scott, Nick Logan Greatest Hits : Very Best of NME 74 1850371473 A selection of the best interviews from NME. Good interview with Mick - Roy Carr interviewer. ed. Sue Weeks Creative Technology - August 1995 95 Haymarket Magazine for hard-core Art techno-freaks... This issue has loads on how the computer animated spikey Tongue was done for the 1994/5 Voodoo Lounge Tours Unknown Mick Jagger - Happy Birthday! 1992 1-873884-13-3 Publisher: IMP Ltd. 66 pages, paperback, LP-size, no text but about 70 great pics of Mick Jagger from the sixies to the early nineties. (D. Stoermann) Unknown The Rolling Stones : 24 Posters 1983 0862830605 24 nicely printed pictures (not posters) from the 81 Tour. No text. Marginal value. Unknown The Rolling Stones Complete 1981 0860017611 Collection of words and music to all original Stones compositions released from 1963 through 1980. Separate complete lyrics section, and a UK discography through 1980. Over 70 photo's, up to and including 1978 Unknown Rolling Stones Stripped: A Trip through the Voodoo Lounge Tour 1994-1995 1995 1873884419 Glorified post-tour programme, but with excellent and exciting photography from the tour. A few minor itinerary mistakes, but lots of interesting interview snippets (largely taken from Westwood One radio network broadcasts), and respectable (if uncompelling) prose which steers clear of the self-absorption that has marred other print documentaries of the Stones on the road. Felix Aeppli Heart of Stone : The Definitive Rolling Stones Discography 1985 0876501927 Well indexed and and as thoroughly researched as a book without 'official' backing could be. Although it is extensive and thorough, sources close to the band dismiss this book as dreadfully inaccurate. An obvious need exists for an authorized version. Felix Aeppli The Rolling Stones 1962-1995 The Ultimate Guide 1996 0907872263 In this high-priced update to his 1985 "Heart of Stone", Aeppli attempts to organize the entirety of the Stones' recording, performing, and media history, both as an act and solo artists, into individually numbered entries. Some ill-chosen shortcuts are exercised (e.g., shows without a recording of the goings-on are not itemized, which will lead to extensive renumbering problems if recordings do turn up in the future) and some inexplicable (albeit not glaring) omissions also irritate, but overall, the effort to put in one place answers to questions about sessions, set lists, tours, official releases, etc. is a massive undertaking, and while other authors may serve an individual topic more thoroughly, no effort here is so shabby that it would justify this book being passed over. (AR) Mandy Aftel Death of a Rolling Stone : The Brian Jones Story 1982 0283989459 Reasonably good biography of the life and death of Brian. Good photo's, and research are spoiled by the author's largely uncritical approach to Brian. John Aldridge Satisfaction : The Story of Mick Jagger 1984 0862761352 Very good book about the history of the Rolling Stones, plus an analysis of the personality of Jagger, explaining how he has managed to resolve so many contradictions in his character that in the end there seemed to be no contradiction (from blurb) Great Pix, plus discography. (Angi) Steve Appleford The Rolling Stones : It's Only Rock N Roll : Song by Song 1997 0028648994 Not to be confused with the Karnbach/Bernson book of almost the same name, the organization here is chronolgical, visiting each and every recorded album and EP track. Better suited to be a leisurely read than a research-friendly source, despite the promising title. The offerings are largely anecdotal, and sometimes barely say more than "Good song" or "Bad song". Though little here is exactly new or earth-shattering, it's well written, circumspect, user-friendly and accomplishes what it set out to do. Acceptable quota of errors. (AR) Christopher Andersen Jagger Unauthorised 1993 0671712098 Only go for this one if you are a terminal completist. Not the best book in the booklist Robert Armstrong Rolling Stones 83 089813109X This 31 page children's book provides an overview of the Stones' history, their early chart success, the death of Brian Jones, the big tours in the early 80's, Tattoo You, and so on. Mentions drugs, but not Mars bars. (SP) Atalanta Press The Rolling Stones : Poster Book 89 1870049225 Large format, well printed book of 20 pullout posters. Pretty. For complete-ists only. Stephen Barnard The Rolling Stones : Street Fighting Years 1993 1851708626 Excellent book. Despite being so big that it is hernia inducing. Superb photo selection, reproduced with great clarity. The text (not matching the photo's) should be read as a series of essays (with flaws). Photo's arranged (seemingly) randomly - but some great ones! Grab this book! Jo Bergman The Rolling Stones Blue Book ?? ? Jo Bergman's chronology (for the press?) of the Stones from 1963 to 1969. Nice & unusual photo's, even if everything is printed in a tasteful blue. All text appears in English, French, German & Italian. Victor Bockris Keith Richards : The Biography 92 0091743974 In a field where few serious biographies exist, any gallant attempt should be welcomed. But.. This book suffers from poor editing, from the (bizarre IMHO) view that much of the success of the Stones stems from the homo-erotic relationship of Jagger/Richards/Jones. Later parts read as slick cuttings jobs. I'm glad my copy was a half price remainder! Massimo Bonanno The Rolling Stones Chronicle : The First Thirty Years 90 0859651355 Chronologically arranged list of hi-lights and low spots from the first 30 years. Nice photos, but the number of entries ensures a generally shallow approach. The early years (62/3) are better than most books - but still flawed. (Ed. note: an updated version closing at the end of the 1995 tour, instead of 1990, was published in the UK.) Massimo Bonanno The Rolling Stones Chronicle : The First Thirty-Five Years 97 0859652378 Update includes scheduled tour dates through 1998, but is premature and incorrect as it was rushed to market before the schedules were finalized, and all concerts listed had a chance to be played. Presumably, author has had five years to clear out any errors from the predecessor. Stanley Booth Dance With The Devil 84 0394534883 US version of 'True Adventures' Stanley Booth Keith : Till I Roll Over Dead 94 0747207704 Unlike 'True Adventures' which is one of the best & most readable books about the Stones, this book is hard going at times. A great disappointment, and few insights into the subject. Personal gripe. Much transcribed verbatim from Keith's odd speaking style - fun once, tedious after 50 pages! Stanley Booth The True Adventures of the Rolling Stones 85 0434081000 In 1969 Stanley Booth was granted the rights to put together a book about the Stones. 16 years later it came out. An entertaining read, full of racy tales and the like - both from the Stones and from the author. How much is true? Who cares! (Extract first published in Granta) Marie Cahill The Rolling Stones - A Pictoral History 90 1856270351 Extremely well written, not deep, but complete. Almost entirely accurate, carefully and lovingly composed to accommodate the format as best it can. First class captions. Honest effort to gain an interesting captivating mix of stock images and the unfamiliar Roy Carr The Rolling Stones : An Illustrated Record 76 0517526417 Well researched and illustrated retrospective. Some good stuff from the very early years (62/63). Terry Carty Tumbling Dice 1991 UK based attempt to get a fanzine off the ground. After 7 issues (as of Sept '93) it is too early to judge. Enthusiastic and deserving of support. Tumbling Dice, 9 Collingwood Close, Westgate on Sea, Kent CT8 8JD UK Teresa Celsi The Rolling Stones 1994 0836230981 Slim & small (8cm x 10cm, hardback) Stones entry in yet another novelty gift-book series. Chronology stops in 1993, and the discography doesn't even pretend to be complete. Prose stylish, highlighted quotes well-chosen, photos wonderful. But small. Really small. (AR) Barbara Charone Keith Richards 79 0708816584 Quite a well researched biography about one half of the Glimmer Twins. Too uncritical to be of real value. Access to Keith assured some unusual photo's. Updated 1982 version in US. Alan Clayson Call Up The Groups : The Golden Age of British Beat 62-67 85 0713715537 Blandford Press Catches the development of British pop at the moment the Beatles were up and coming, follows the careers of the well-known and little-known Beat groups of the First Wave Ray Connolly Stardust Memories 83 0907516300 A compilation of articles previously published in the Evening Standard. Great articles, great background to The Sixties. Only does 2 Beatles - Paul & Ringo, and 2 Stones - Mick & Charlie. Michael Cooper & Terry Southern The Early Stones : Legendary photographs of a band in the ma 93 0436201372 A book of Michael Cooper's photo's, with a foreword (and comments by Keef) could hardly fail. This one nearly does. Illegible text, poor printing of ace photo's, and even some mistakes (P157=questionable). However, this is an essential book! Gus Coral (& David Hinckley & D Rodman) The Rolling Stones : Black & White Blues, 1963 95 1570361509 Excellent book of Coral's photos of a date on the 1963 tour and of the Stones recording 'I Wanna Be Your Man'. Although the text drifts off the point from time to time, the photo's are SO GOOD that this book is an absolute must-buy-it-as-soon-as-possible! David Dalton The Rolling Stones : The First Twenty Years 81 0500272611 Well researched, well produced and illustrated retrospective on the Stones. Time for an update - the First Thirty Years? David Dalton The Rolling Stones - An Unauthorized Biography in Words, ... 72 0825626692 This is Dalton's first book on The Stones, which he has revised several times. It is loaded with outstanding pictures and the text is good. Difficult to find. Worth grabbing. Thanks to DH for finding my copy! Excellent early-ish book. (DH) David Dalton & Mick Farren Rolling Stones in their own Words 1980 0860015416 One of an extensive series of similar volumes. Well presented collection of quotes - sorted by topic. Nice photo's. Being quotes it steers clear of the risk of bad research! (Reissued with some updates in 1985) Mary Laverne Dimmick The Rolling Stones - An Annotated Bibliography 1979 0822933845 Just what it says, she adds her knowledgable comments about the books (etc) listed. Much less complete than 'Yesterday's Papers' but more user friendly. (DH) Tim Dowley The Rolling Stones 1983 0882547348 There are better books on the list. Martin Elliott The Rolling Stones Complete Recording Sessions 1990 0713721189 Any book claiming to be 'complete' that is produced without access to either the Stones' own sources, or even Alan Klein's, is doomed. A brave attempt, but flawed. Simply demonstrates the need for an authorized version. Richard Elman Uptight With The Stones 1973 Short book which documents a small part of their 1972 US Tour. Elman is a good writer but doesn't know that much about The Stones. Extremely difficult to find. DH. Jon Ewing Quote Unquote: The Rolling Stones 1997 0-517-16029-3 Crescent Books The Stones' entry in a mass-market series of books built around the subjects' oral record, a la the "In Their Own Words" paperbacks. Not reviewed. Marianne Faithfull (with David Dalton) Faithfull 1994 0718136586 A far better book that I was expecting. She tells about her life & times, not just with the Stones, but before and after. Interesting, far from being a superficial kiss-and-tell, and worth getting. Even debunks the Mars Bar story! Nicholas Fitzgerald Brian Jones : The Inside Story of the original Rolling Stone 1985 0399130616 Personal memoire of Swingin' Sixties hanger-on to Brian's entourage. Vivid portraits of whirlwind escapades in Paris, London etc. Fascinating stuff about life on the 'inside'. Despite failings, valuable. AR. Paul Flattery The Illustrated History of Pop ?? An excellent treatment of 1950's-1960's British Pop. Out of print since mid-70's, but if you find it (Wise Publishers, England) you'll learn all about Dickie Valentine, Adam Faith, Helen Shapiro, Cliff Richards, and all the British stars whose careers were permanently derailed by the Fab Four. Chet Flippo It's Only Rock and Roll : My On The Road Adventures with the Rolling Stones 1985 0312038518 Long account of Chet's years on the road thru 75, 78 and 79 with the Stones. Worthwhile thoughts on the Stones - at times thought-provoking, at times funny, as well as accurate reportage of life in the big league. Enjoyable and recommended. Strangely never available in the UK. Pete Frame Rock Family Trees 1979 0860014142 This book, an essential part of any book collection, charts the evolution of various groups. The Stones are shown linked to the Pretty Things (by Dick Taylor) and tenuously to The Kinks. Little on the Beatles. Pete Frame Rock Gazetteer of Great Britain 1989 0950540263 Essential reading for any serious student of UK rock music, which of course dominates the world. Lots of short (often witty) paragraphs about rock's famous places the length and breadth of the land. Could do with an index though! David Fricke & Robert Sandall Rolling Stones : Images of the World Tour 1989-90 1990 1852830816 This 'official' photographic record of the tour is very disappointing. The unique access by chosen photographers could have and should have produced a better (in every way) book. The photos should all have been dated and the location noted. Tony Gale & Andy Neil The Rolling Stones : Olympic Recording Sessions June 1968 1994 187388413X A slim book of photo's of..um... the 1968 One Plus One sessions. Overpriced, but still nice as the photos seem to capture an atmosphere. Bill German Beggars Banquet A semi-official monthly newsletter about the Stones, from a publisher (German) with good access to Ronnie. Ceased publication in 1996. (address was: Beggars Banquet, PO Box 6152, New York, NY 10128) Geoffrey Giuliano & Cris Eborn Not Fade Away : The Rolling Stones Collection 1992 1850282161 An abolutely SUPERB book full of SUPERB illustrations of what is (I guess) the second Best Stones Collection - Chris Eborn's. Wonderful printing, well composed, incredible value. Let down rather by the text - apart from the captions. Geoffrey Giuliano Loose Talk 1996 [None supplied] Issued on compact disc by the 'LaserLight' firm, this 'Audio Book on CD' (it has no ISBN, even) is a series of press conferences (saving on copyrights and royalties, no doubt) strung together on the flimsiest pretenses by Giuliano's narration in order to hopefully present a coherent history of the Rolling Stones. Doesn't work, and the audio material is largely widely-distributed, high-profile events like tour announcement press conferences. John Glatt Rage & Roll : Bill Graham & The Selling of Rock 1993 1559722053 Bill Graham was allegedly caught pocketing a *lot* of money from the Stones' till on the '81 US tour. Based in part on an included interview with Wyman, this bio of Graham explores the tale and its ramifications, among other topics, like a bio of the man who created the big rock concert industry as we know it today. Frequent Stones references/anecdotes (AR). Nigel Goodall Jump Up : The Rise of the Rolling Stones : The first 10 Yrs 1995 1898141088 The text does not add a great deal to the body of knowledge about the Stones. The pictures are well selected and printed. But, Nigel Goodall should stick to his books on Cliff Richard. Robert Greenfield S T P : A Journey through America with the Rolling Stones 1974 0841503230 Very famous book about the 1972 US Tour. Well written by an 'insider'. How did those boys survive!? (Ed. note: Paperback rerelease by UK firm "Helter Skelter" in 1997, ISBN 1-900924-01-3, omits photos and the "STP" part of title.) Bob Gruen Crossfire Hurricane: 25 years of the Rolling Stones in the USA 1998 Another pricey limited edition (1750 copies) from Genesis Publications, who report only 10 left available as of October 1998. Photographer Bob Gruen caught the band at work from 1972 to 1997, and presents 350 of the resulting photographs alongside his own narrative. (Not reviewed). Publisher website: http://www.widemedia.com/genesis/ Andre Hagedorn It's Only Rock'n'Roll : The Rolling Stones : Dates & Facts 1990 3927801089 A German book of dates and facts about the Rolling Stones. Cheap printing, nice photo's - but I've not got a clue about the text..... :-) Jerry Hall (with Christopher Hemphill) Jerry Halls' Tall tales 1985 067150911X 222 page paperback - Jerry's autobiography. What you would expect. Lots of inside stuff & photo's. Good for those who like gossip. SW James Hector The Complete Guide to the Music of the Rolling Stones 1995 0711943036 One of a series of CD-sized books, this Stones entry intelligently discusses their recorded history, and includes coverage of important issues like flipsides and CD re-releases. Hector can be overcritical, and tends to take mediocre records personally, but he is well-informed and intelligent, which makes the reading a pleasure. The pictures are good, and with very few exceptions, each and every track the Stones officially released gets a conmment or two. An alphabetical index of song titles is included. [AR] Gary Herman Rock'n'Roll Babylon 1982 0859650413 Compulsive reading about the seamier side of the life (and death) the Rock Greats. Not surprisingly the Stones pop up regularly. Tim Hewat Rolling Stones File 1967 Apparently this is in part the proceedings against The Glimmer Twins from the West Sussex Quarter Sessions June 27/28/29 1967. (J Henning). Clinton Heylin The Great White Wonders : A History of Rock Bootlegs 1995 014023285O Penguin An accessible history of Rock Bootlegs, starting with the first (Dylan) and the second (Stones) - taking a level headed look at the (let's face it) illegal industry from a range of angles. USA Version - Bootleg: The Secret History of The Other Recording Industry. If you are serious about Rock, collect Bootlegs, then this for you. Mark Hodginson Marianne Faithfull : As Tears Go By 1991 0711924015 An appreciatively critical, not fawning, well written book that sets a good standard for others to match. Not having any 'official' approval is both a weakness, and a strength. Whatever the flaws, I wish that more Rock Biographies were to this high standard. Dezo Hoffman The Rolling Stones ?? 009158311x Dezo was a staff photographer with Record Mirror and his first assignment to cover the Stones is re-printed here - dated May 1963. An excellent book of first class photos from 1963 to the early 70's. Dieter Hoffman Rolling Stones - Das Schwarzbuch 1987 3926886005 The Black Book - bootleg discography with pictures, quality ratings etc. About 600 are listed. Much, much better than Hot Wacks. DH. (Note: Hoffman reissued the Scwarzbuch in 1997, publishing it in a looseleaf binder format to facilitate the regular updates and changes.) Dieter Hoffman Rolling Stones - Das Weissbuch 1991 3980248940 Totally amazing detailed catalogue of Stones (legal) releases. UK, US, Germany, 7, LP, CD. You name it, it's there! Includes song index. Expensive (99 DM) but well worth it for the serious collectors. (See also Das Schwartzbuch by ther same author) A E Hotchner Blown Away : The Rolling Stones and the Death of the Sixties 90 0671693166 Less than readable account that draws upon interviews with everyone except the Stones. Interview extracts pasted together out of context results in a book with little value. One nice photo. William Hughes Performance 1970 Book of the film. Almost. Marsha Hunt Real Life 1986 0701130261 Marsha describes life growing up in USA and then her move to London, run ins with Mayall, Mick Taylor, Elton John, being a cebrity, and then Jagger. Many dropped names, not huge Stones content, but picture of Jagger better than most on offer. SP Laura Jackson Golden Stone : The Untold Life & Death of Brian Jones 1994 185685067X Hardly untold. Yet another telling of a familiar tale. The promised revelation of the identity of Jones' (alleged) killer comes 200 pages into the 228 pages of text. Only for completeists. Laura Jackson Heart of Stone - The Unauthorized Life of Mick Jagger 1997 1-85782-213-7 Blake Publishing, London. Paperback, 272 pages (not reviewed). Tony Jasper The Rolling Stones 1976 0706405498 Cuttings job. Nicely printed selection of photo's. Philip Kamin & Peter Goddard The Rolling Stones : The Last Tour 1982 0825301181 Longish text for little reward. Often pretentious. Excellent photos, although the captions are sometimes incorrect. James Karnbach & Philip Kamin The Rolling Stones : The Last Tour 1983 0283989807 Sidgwick & Jackson Written by long time Stones authority James Karnbach, exciting coverage of shows, many pages of photo's, and finally an interview with Ronnie. Plus a breakdown of the performance history of each song in the '82 set list. (Appeared in USA as "The Rolling Stones In Europe") James Karnbach & Carol Bernson It's Only Rock & Roll: The Ultimate Guide to the Rolling Stones 1997 0816030359 Facts on File First-ever attempt at a popularly-priced, widely distributed "Ultimate Guide" to the Stones' career activities. Author is of justified repute, so this, a book beset by gremlins, errors and probably a 1997 tour tie-in deadline, is a bit tragic. The number of blunders about obvious stuff is enough to make one fret about the whole affair, and renders the new data exclusive to these authors hard to consume on faith. Advice: hope for a cleaned-up, second edition. (AR) Hilary Kay Rock'n'Roll Collectables 1992 185510069X Coffee table sized book that draws on Hilary's position as THE inventor of the famous Sotheby's memorabilia auctions. Some excellent photo's - including one of the alternative Pepper drumskin - described as 'in a private collection' (Paul has it!) Expensive, but buy if remaindered at about half price! The Kicker Twins The Stones Bible 1992 Privately published (photocopied) in Germany, this lists concerts by city and compares bootleg LP/CD to tapes for completeness. Only 200 copies printed. DH Volker Kluge The Rolling Stones - At the Rarest 1981 Bootleg discography, mostly obsolete due to the passage of time, and Das Schwarzbuch. DH June Knight On the Scene : The Rolling Stones 1964 Only 36 pages, but packed with good quality early photos. Interestingly Brian follows Mick in the pecking order of of the group..... Sebastian Kr�ger Rolling Stones Pur 1990 3923192453 Kunst Der Comics (Precis of AM's submission) Excellent book of coloured Stones cartoons, if (by all accounts) a tad wierd! Keith on Kr�ger : "Very Interesting Work! It must have been a good pencil" Sebastian Kr�ger STONES 1994 3890825052 Edition C, Switzerland (Precis of AM's submission) Excellent book of coloured Stones cartoons, if (by all accounts) a tad wierd. Keith on Kruger : "Very Interesting Work! It must have been a good pencil" Sebastian Kr�ger Stones 1996 1-883398-18-5 [96 pp., pub. Morpheus International] A 10.25"x14" full color book of portraits, caricatures, and abstracts of our heroes. The incredible portraits in this book are either taken from popular photos, such as the Rolling Stone "No Regrets" Keith cover, or are the products of Kr�ger's great imagination. Also in the book are various quotes (in English and German) from the likes of Keith, Mick, Patti, William Burroughs, Harlan Ellison, and others... (J. Hodgkins) Annie Leibovitz & Terry Southern The Rolling Stones on Tour 1978 0906196078 Beautifully produced and presented book of great photo's of the Tour of The Americas '75. A talented photographer with privileged access to the tour has captured some great images. See page 68. Spencer Leigh & Peter Frame Let's Go Down The Cavern - The Story of Liverpool's Merseybeat 1984 0091585414 An EXCELLENT book written by Someone Who Was There. Full of detail without being tedious. Always interesting. Lots of anecdotes and loads of facts. Very good indeed. Buy it if you see it. David Littlejohn The Man Who Killed Mick Jagger 1977 0671819135 294 page sleazy novel about a psychopath who stabs Jagger to death on stage at Oakland Coliseum in 69. 'A great read for Stones Fans'. SW Philip Luce The Stones 1970 0093051905 An early attempt at a half-serious account of the rise and rise of the Stones. A historic curio. Wonderful cover shot of Charlie Sutherland Lyall Rock Sets : The Astonishing Art of Rock Concert Design 1992 0500276978 This book details the Stage Set designs of Fisher Park - the architects who designed the 'Steel Wheels' and 'Urban Jungle stage sets. Very high quality photo's and reproduction. Excellent. Michael Lydon Rock Folk : Portraits from the Rock'n'Roll Pantheon 4400740245 199 page paperback with essays on Carl Perkins, Chuck Berry, Smokey Robinson, BB King, Grateful Dead, Joplin, and of course the Rolling Stones. Stones essay is almost half the book (69 tour) and is a good companion to the Stanley Booth book. SW Chrissie Lytton Cobbold Knebworth : Rock Festivals 1985 0711907749 Fascinating behind the scenes account of the Knebworth Festivals - by the lady of the house! Good account of Stones' appearance (longest ever set?). Jessica MacPhail Yesterday's Papers : The Rolling Stones in Print 1963-84 1986 0876502095 No original text, but a book of lists of books, newspaper articles, magazines, and file reviews. Ambitious but flawed by the fact that the earliest reference is May 1963 - almost a year after the first one. Dreadful typeface makes this book very hard to use. An honorable attempt at an impossible task. A must for all serious students. Gered Mankowitz Satisfaction : The Rolling Stones photos of Gered Mankowitz 1984 0283991178 First class book of photo's taken by one of the inner circle of favoured photographers from the early years. Gered Mankowitz Rolling Stones : Masons Yard to Primrose Hill : 1965-1967 1995 0904351483 Yet another stunningly produced limited edition (1,750) book from Genesis. Excellent selection of excellent photo's, excellently presented. First class text about Gered's work with the Stones 65-67. All copies autographed by Gered. Pearce Marchbank The Rolling Stones File 1976 0-86001-245-X Contains music and a few passport-like pages on each Stone. Front cover is individual photos from the Black & Blue photo session; not to be confused with the 1967 book of the same name. (PB) J Marks Mick Jagger : The Singer Not the Song 1973 0349122881 A less than useful bio of Mick. Everone has a different perspective on the Band, this is J Marks'. Linda Martin The Rolling Stones in Concert 1982 0617376954 Text tells you nothing new, but the photos are good - often with stunning clarity. Suffers, like many books, from badly captioned photos. Linda McCartney Sixties: Portrait of an Era 1992 1855100894 Linda got her Big Career Break by taking photo's of the Stones in New York in 1966. Nice photo's, nicely printed and presented. Overpriced book. Mind you, it has some superb photo's, including The Best Photo Ever of Jimi. Linda McCartney Linda's Pictures 1976 0345278151 Very nice 1976 collection of Linda's photo's. Worth grabbing if you see it as some of the shots are not repeated in the 1992 glossy coffee table production. Actually quite a nice book! Linda McCartney Sixties : Portrait of an Era 1992 1855100894 Overpriced, but well produced, coffee table book of Linda's pictures. From her early break crashing a Stones session in June 1966 through to some intimate photo's with the Beatles and her husband. Includes The Best Ever Photo of Jimi, and a superb photo of the Fabs about to cross Abbey Road. Accept as a gift, or buy if remaindered. Miles The Rolling Stones : A visual Documentary 1994 0711934606 Even if it is a pretty obvious cash-in on the Voodoo Lounge tour hype, it is an excellent book of well printed and presented photo's and 'diary' entries. What I'd expect from Miles. Buy it. Miles Rolling Stones : An Illustrated Discography 1980 0860017621 An ESSENTIAL book for all Stones fans. An excellent listing of the band's records up to 1980 (and thus in need of a new edition). Few books on this list are mandatory, this is one! Philip Norman The Life and Good Times of the Rolling Stones 1989 0712630384 A large format photo book, short on text. Given that Norman has written first class books about both the Stones and the Fabs, one has to wonder what the point is. Only buy of remaindered and very cheap. Philip Norman The Stones 1984 0552124877 Pete Townshend writes 'It's a good thing that a writer of Philip Norman's class has finally produced a book on The Stones'. Agreed. Even if this is flawed, and I don't know if it really is, too many of the Stones books are very lightweight and it is a pleasant change to have one that is actually serious and thorough. Andrew Oldham The Rolling Stones : the Singles Collection 1989 The re-issued boxed set of Singles (CD et.al.) has an OK book of notes. Useful notes, more useful for all of the words of the songs and the notes about the singles. Robert Palmer The Rolling Stones 1983 0722166567 A well researched and presented book from the publishers of Rolling Stone. Light on text, heavy on pictures. Tony Palmer (ill. Ralph Steadman) Born Under A Bad Sign 1970 718303036 Usual 'hard to read' stuff from Palmer. Book has value because it is contemporary, and Palmer moved in the circles he writes about. Essays about 60's music, musicians and movers... Jeremy Pascall The Rolling Stones 1977 0702600156 (No information - source Melvyl System) Guy Peellaert, Nik Cohn Rock Dreams : Under the Boardwalk 1974 0330240080 A book of fantasy drawings of The Great Stars in likely and unlikely situations. The Stones are (rather strangely) illustrated. It is said that Jagger was so impressed that this was the reason why Peellaert was commissioned to do the cover for It's Only Rock'n'Roll. James Phelge Phelge's Stones 1998 0966433807 Nankering With the Rolling Stones : The Untold Story of the Early Years 2000 1556523734 Autobiographical reminiscence by the man who lived in the same dingy rooms as Richards, Jagger and Jones as they successfully clawed their way to the big time, and then drifted further from the center of the storm as it swirled wider and more fiercely. Refreshingly free of self-aggrandizement, doesn't insult anyone's intelligence by trying to infuse the goings-on with metaphysical significance, and a devastatingly funny read to boot. A valuable and unsentimental portrait of the very last days of the band members' existence as normal anonymous folk. 2nd edition issued in 2000 w/ new title. (AR) John Platt London's Rock Routes 1985 0947795707 Quite a nice round up of famous rock locations around the capital. A good chapters on the Stones, and the Beatles. Hans-Ulrich Prost, Gerd Roeckl Die Rolling Stones - Die haerteste Rockgruppe der Welt (The Rolling Stones - The hardest rockband in the world) 1982 3-404-60079-7 For terminal completists only. Foreword from Alexis Korner. Includes short biographies, tours, movies and discographie. An incomplete Who's who in the world of the Stones distinguished this lightweight book from others. 220 pages, 16 of it with b/w pictures. (D. Stoermann) Greg Quill The Rolling Stones : 25th Anniversary Tour 1989 0921458029 Some neat pictures, but contains factual errors. Mike Randolph The Rolling Stones' Rock and Roll Circus 1995 1898422029 Tracks Not to be confused with a book with the identical title from the same author (!), this is a smaller "Stones-only" special limited (2,000) edition. Nice photo's. Collectors only though! It would be nice to see the video/film! Mike Randolph The Rolling Stones' Rock and Roll Circus 1991 157116210X Faber & Faber Lovely book of photo's from a famous, but little documented, event. Photo's of all the artists - including some great shots of both the Stones, and of Lennon. Daft production means that some of the nicer pictures are across 2 pages, but to see them means breaking the book! Terry Rawlings & Keith Badman Good Times Bad Times: The Definitive Diary of the Rolling Stones 1960-1969 1997 0951720678 Not Reviewed Terry Rawlins Who Killed Christopher Robin : The Truth Behind the Murder 94 0752209892 Further exposure to the theory that Brian was murdered. Not an easy book to read. The theory undermined by some gross errors in the book (Witterings being near Roehampton etc) But, buy if remaindered! The Rolling Stones Concert Programmes Any history of any group can only be helped by a study of their Concert Programmes. As the years have passed these have progressed from small quick throw-away jobs, to lavish well produced (and expensive) souvenirs. Yet another way for the bands to make money. William Ruhlmann The Rolling Stones 1993 0861247957 Bison Nicely presented selection of well printed photo's of the band, along with a fairly light weight accompanying text. A FAR better book than I was led to believe to expect - I guess it to be aimed at the pre-teen market who ask their (grand)Parents.... "Who are the Rolling Stones". Ethan Russell Dear Mr Fantasy 1985 Many good photo's of the Stones and other bands, personalities, etc. Especially good photo's from 1969 when he was the official tour photographer. DH. Tony Sanchez Up and Down with the Rolling Stones : The Inside Story 1979 0688085156 'Spanish' Tony's account of several years wheeling and dealing with the Stones (mainly Keith). An interesting read because even if 99% is grossly inflated it gives a flavour of what life was like with the band during the late 60's to early 70's. Spanish Tony is immortalised on the (censored) Beggars Banquet cover (below Parachute Woman). Christopher Sandford Mick Jagger : Primitive Cool 1994 0575057491 (Review Under Construction) Anthony Scaduto Mick Jagger 1974 Lengthy and detailed look at how Jagger was perceived in 1974. Carey Schofield Jagger 1983 0708826156 A disappointingly lightweight bio of Mick. Davin Seay Mick Jagger : The Story Behind The Rolling Stones 1993 1559721928 (Original reviewer's notes abbreviated by Carter to...) 'There is some stunningly inept writing here, apart from subject matter. Makes the head spin.' For completeists only Marianne Sinclair Those Who Died Young : Cult Heroes of the 20th Century 0859650294 Inevitably a mention of Brian Jones (& Keith gets mentioned in the Gram Parson's bit). (JHenning). Mandy Smith (with A Coulson & I Millar) It's All Over Now 1993 1857820827 Kiss and Tell. Miss Smith was the much publicised teen-bride of Bill. The marriage did not last much longer than the Steel Wheels & Urban Jungle Tours. This is her version of events. Sean Smith & Dale Lawrence Stone Me! 1999 1-84018-084-6 Paperback quiz book with trivia questions, crosswords, etc. Mixture of questions fit for aficionados with ones which could make amateurs feel smart, too. (Not reviewed). Mick St Michael Keith Richards in His Own Words 1994 071193634X Omnibus Disappointing collection of tertiary quotes from Keith along with equally disappointing pictures. (JO'Sullivan) For completists only. Wilfred Stember The Rolling Stones : Collectors File 2 1984 A stirling attempt by a German fan to list all shows, albums, recordings etc. Yet another book to compare with other similar and worry and wonder about the differences. Come on Bill, do the decent thing and publish YOUR database! George Tremlett Rock Gold : The Music Millionares 1990 0044405480 Although in parts a bit like an economics text book, it is a surprisingly readable account of where (and how) the MONEY goes. Could have done with a harder editor - but worthwhile nevertheless George Tremlett The Rolling Stones Story 1974 0860071286 Tory Ex-GLC Councillor does a mean job with a cuttings file. Andre Verdet and Bill Wyman Chagall's World 1984 0385193246 When a book of an interview with Chagall was to be published who better than to do the photo's than (then) near neighbour Bill Wyman. Nice book. Sue Weiner & Lisa Howard The Rolling Stones : A-Z 1983 0711905495 Encyclopedia format of a paragraph about people, songs and the like to do with the band. Helpful in settling disputes. 3000 entries ensures brevity of each entry. Welch, Chris The Rolling Stones 1994 1858680697 Part of a mass-market 'CD book' series, the publishers at least chose a competent and knowledgeable author to pen the Stones' history. Welch, with much industry experience and a KR interview from '77 under his belt, writes an engaging and lively (if compact) history with some unorthodox but at least well-informed views on the Stones' history and output. Great photos. Sloppy discography/summary for the appendix. Timothy White Rock Lives : Profiles & Interviews 1990 0805013962 Interviews & profiles of everyone from Robert Johnson to Prince, taking in Keith on the way. 'There's really only one song in the whole world and probably Adam and Eve hummed it to each other....'. SP. Ron Wood (with Bill German) The Works 1988 0006373542 Ronnie's short autobiography. Also has a paragraph or two about his influences. Lightweight, but the sketches are nice. Ron Wood Wood on Canvas: Every Picture Tells a Story 1998 Genesis Publications A very pricey (192 English pounds), numbered limited edition (2,500) collection of Ron Wood's artwork. Like "The Works", includes narration and tales from Wood. Forewords provided by Mick and Keith. Includes a bonus audio CD with two tracks unavailable elsewhere. Not Reviewed. Publisher website: http://www.widemedia.com/genesis/ Bill Wyman Chagall's World 1984 Bill Wyman Stone Alone : The Story of a Rock'n'Roll Band 1990 0670828947 Bill's own account of the band's story up to the 1969 Hyde Park concert. A surprisingly absorbing read, despite the great detail. Although Ray Coleman did edit the book, it was written by The Man himself and was reportedly cut down from 300,000 words. Deals with interraction with Beatles. Essential. How long will we have to wait for Volume 2 (in preparation). Bill Wyman Wyman Shoots Chagall 1998 According to pre-publishing hype, this author-signed limited edition (1500 copies) "will present the portrait photography and extensive reminiscences of the former Rolling Stone Bill Wyman." Finding himself neighbors with Marc Chagall in the South of France in the 70s, Wyman took lots of pictures of the man and shows them here. "Bill has also provided a candid and humorous commentary to accompany the pictures, reflecting at length on his friendship with Chagall, life as a Rolling Stone on the road and in the South of France, and his long-term love of photography." Initial edition also includes an exclusive 8-track CD of solo material recorded by Wyman in the early 80s. Not reviewed. Publisher website: http://www.widemedia.com/genesis/ Nico Zentgraf Complete Works Vol. I 1962-1975 1993 Covering the years 1962 to 1975, Zentgraf meticulously records all appearances by the Rolling Stones together or alone: television shows, concerts, recording sessions; nothing escapes the relentless cataloguing. Published by Stoneware Publishing, a private publisher in Germany specializing in Stones' books, copies of this book from an unfortunate press run (beset with smudges) are still available directly from them. Not reviewed. Nico Zentgraf Complete Works Vol. II 1976-1986 1994 This 'sequel' to "Complete Works Vol. 1", covering 1976-1986, is no longer available. Like Volume I, published by Stoneware. Not reviewed. =============================================================== Special note from outgoing editor Stephen Carter (12/95) =============================================================== This message should reach you as the header to a new version of the Books FAQ. This version incorporates a number of changes: * I have gone through the text very carefully, and there are many fewer silly typo's than there once were. * The list is in fact generated from a database on my home personal computer - a getting-rather-old Atari. Previously I had two databases - one for each of the two rather good bands. This meant a rather large amount of duplication (etc), so I have now merged the two, and re-categorised some entries around a schema of Beatles, Stones, Both and General. The Beatles FAQ is the total less Stones, and vice versa. * Necessarily some text had to be tinkered with to make sense. * I have edited some text entries - see later. Those are the changes. In doing the above, one thing that 'drove me' was the need to EDIT the text to make it less 'informal' - and in some cases to remove what may have been read as libel! The increasingly litigous nature of the Internet has forced me to do this. A couple of years ago it may have been OK to describe a book as "Dreadful" - perhaps no longer? I have been doing the Stones list for 3 years, and the Beatles one for (?) 5 - this will be my last one. The main reasons for giving this up are: * The litigous nature of the Internet (above) * I was, and am, more than happy to do this job out of the kindness of my heart. I do this for the next guy/girl - and she/he does a similar turn for me (or the next person). But I deeply resent the growing commercialisation of this aspect of the Interent - so the fact that someone may have taken a copy of this FAQ (largely, but not uniquely, my own work) and is selling it on a CD offends me most profoundly. I am happy to *give* the fruits of my labours to my friends, but I'm not prepared to permit someone else to sell it for their profit! * It is a lot of work in all. It is someone else's turn - so I freely give this text to the community and only ask that while it still applies, my input is noted somewhere. (If future FAQ maintainers can take Atari Superbase files, then they can have the original database copied - or in due course I expect I'll have a more industry standard version which I'll make available. * I want to use the database for my own purposes - basically as a catalogue of my own book collection - which extends the scope of the FAQ a tad too far. It has been fun, and I **DO** want to hear about any new (or discovered old) books - but as a user and not a FAQ maintainer. ===============================================================

Rolling Stones FAQ [4/4]

From: rzepelaa@netaxs.com (Anthony J. Rzepela) Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.stones Subject: Rolling Stones FAQ [4/4] Date: 1 Mar 2000 07:03:52 GMT Message-ID: <89ifco$ic9@netaxs.com> Archive-name: music/rollingstones-faq/part4 Last-modified: 2000/02/28 Version: 7.02 Rolling Stones' Mailing list/newsgroup FAQ ==================================================== http://www.netaxs.com/~rzepelaa/undercover Part Four The Rolling Stones -- Abbreviated Discography Version 7.02 February 2000 (last update October 1999) /***********************************************************************/ COPYRIGHT 1994-2000 (c) Anthony J. Rzepela (editor) This collection of four works is under the copyright of the editor, who may, at his discretion, relinquish said copyright to the authors named herein. This collection may not be broken up, or be made available by any publisher. It may not be redistributed in any form if any changes are made to it except by the holder of the copyright. The editor of this FAQ retains all rights for use of it. No author or proofreader or assistant credited herein grants the use of his or her name to any publisher. Be warned that attempts to publish this shared work-in-progress may interfere with legal commitments individual authors may privately hold with publishers. /***********************************************************************/ This discography 1) lists the Rolling Stones' original long-play and EP releases issued in either the UK or United States, sorted by release date. Those DECCA LP releases of the 60s which were unique to the UK, in either title or configuration, are underlined in Eastward-pointing arrows: ">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>" Those London LP releases which were unique to the US, in either title or configuration, use Westward-pointing arrows: "<<<<<<<<<<<<<" From "Their Satanic Majesties' Request" on, the British and American releases of previously unreleased material on LPs were congruent, with the exception of "Metamorphosis" (1975). 2) discusses the Rolling Stones on Compact Disc (search forward in this document for the text "CDs, CDs, CDs"). This section answers the following questions: Who issues them? When did they come out? What are they like? What do I need minimally for a "complete" Rolling Stones collection on CD? What about stereo versions of early Stones tracks? (The detail work on this last question was done by Chris M. [ChrisM42@aol.com]). 3) lists songs that were officially sanctioned and available at some point, but never made it to any EP or LP in the UK or US (search forward in this document for the text "Flipsides and Oddities"). Concerning comprehensiveness: We have declined to catalogue out-of-print compilations that do not have unique content unavailable elsewhere. Some compilations, such as those which started appearing in Europe in the seventies, may have filled important gaps in European collections at the time they were released, but the fact is that with only a few exceptions, any track that was on those records is now available somewhere on Compact Disc, small variations of individual versions of a title notwithstanding. ( Exceptions: * 2 tracks (plus an intro) from the 1965 UK EP "Got LIVE if you want it!" * 6 tracks released on "Rest of the Best", a 1984 German box set These tracks appeared on now out-of-print European compilations, but have still to make it to CD. ) We have also declined, at this point in time, to exhaustively catalogue those small variations on the same track between different LP releases. While some variations are indeed significant, and some versions still have not appeared on a legitimate Compact Disc in any country, we feel the omissions do not prevent the document from being a useful resource. With the specific exception above, compilations stay on the list as long as they either stay in print, or offer something found on no other EP or LP. This discography/FAQ-section is maintained by Anthony J. Rzepela (rzepelaa@netaxs.com). Helps, hints, corrections, suggestions, and, where noted, some more substantial contributions were graciously provided by: Jens Backlund (jens.backlund@abo.fi) Stephen D. Carter (stevedc@central.sussex.ac.uk) Glen Cassan (gcassan@pathcom.com) Dave Heller Michael Honig (honey@mwald5.chemie.uni-mainz.de) Chris M. (ChrisM42@aol.com) Luke Pacholski (LukPac@lukpac.org) Pablo Roufogalis (formerly proufo@conicit.ve) John Rutherford (john_rutherford@parsons.com) (shattered@prodigy.com) Mark C. Walters (mark@pluto.logica.co.uk) Special mention goes to John Rutherford for detailed info about promo singles, and Chris M. for info about promo CDs and officially released stereo versions from the early 1960s. Bibliography: ------------- Aeppli, Felix "The Ultimate Guide 1962-1995" ISBN: 0907872263 Hoffman, Dieter "Das Weissbuch" ISBN: 3980248940 Wyman, Bill (w/ Ray Coleman) "Stone Alone" ISBN: 0670828947 ============================================================================ The Rolling Stones (EP) (17-Jan-1964) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PROD: Impact Sound Bye Bye Johnny / Money (That's What I Want) // You Better Move On / Poison Ivy NB: Rereleased on vinyl in 1982; Other sources for these tracks: "December's Children" (track 3); German compilations "20 Super Hits" & "Heartbreakers", and the UK compilation "Slow Rollers" (track 3); "More Hot Rocks" (1,2, and 4); German vinyl compilation "Around and Around" (1,3, and 4); German "The Rolling Stones Story" (entire EP). The Rolling Stones (17-Apr-1964) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PROD: Oldham/Eric Easton/Arr. Stones Route 66 / I Just Wanna Make Love To You / Honest I Do / Mona (I Need You Baby) / Now I've Got a Witness / Little By Little // I'm a King Bee / Carol / Tell Me / Can I Get A Witness / You Can Make It If You Try / Walking the Dog NB: To duplicate this track lineup with US releases, take US lp debut ("England's Newest Hitmakers"), remove "Not Fade Away", and add "Mona" (found on 3rd US LP/CD, "Now!") and replace "Tell Me" with the "long" version of it, not found on any US CDs. Long "Tell Me" was on the 11-LP box set from Mobile Fidelity in 1984, but on no other US release. England's Newest Hit Makers (01-May-1964) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< PROD: Oldham/Eric Easton/Arr. Stones Not Fade Away / Route 66 / I Just Want to Make Love to You / Honest I Do / Now I've Got a Witness / Little By Little // I'm a King Bee / Carol / Tell Me / Can I get A Witness / You Can Make it if You Try / Walking the Dog NB: Then-manager Eric Easton's co-producer credits have been removed from CD reissue. To duplicate this release's track listings, take UK lp debut, remove "Mona", and add "Not Fade Away" and the "short" US album version of "Tell Me" (both found on the German "More Hot Rocks" CD). Five by Five (EP) (14-Aug-1964) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PROD: Oldham/Impact/Arr. Stones If You Need Me / Empty Heart / 2120 South Michigan Avenue // Confessin' the Blues / Around and Around NB: Vinyl rereleased 1982; all 5 tracks can be found on American LP/CD "12 X 5"; a longer/complete version of track 3 ("2120 South Michigan Avenue") appears nowhere except the German compilation "Around and Around", which was included in toto in the box set "The Rolling Stones Story" - also vinyl, also out of print. 12 x 5 (24-Oct-1964) <<<<<< PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones Around and Around / Confessin' the Blues / Empty Heart / Time Is on My Side / Good Times Bad Times / It's All Over Now // 2120 South Michigan Avenue / Under The Boardwalk / Congratulations / Grown Up Wrong / If You Need Me / Susie Q NB: includes all of the "5 X 5" UK EP, four tracks from the second UK LP ("No.2"), and 3 tracks taken from singles/compilations: "It's All Over Now", "Good Times Bad Times", and "Congratulations" No. 2 (16-Jan-1965) >>>>> PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones Everybody Needs Somebody To Love / Down Home Girl / You Can't Catch Me / Time Is On My Side / What A Shame / Grown Up Wrong // Down The Road Apiece / Under the Boardwalk / I Can't Be Satisfied / Pain In My Heart / Off The Hook / Suzie Q NB: To duplicate, start with US LP "Now!", and add (from "12 x 5") "Time Is On My Side", "Susie Q", "Under the Boardwalk", and "Grown Up Wrong"; and finally (from "More Hot Rocks") use "I Can't Be Satisfied". Tracks 4,5,7 and 9 are in true channel-separated stereo on the Japanese CD issue of this title. Now! (13-Feb-1965) <<<< PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones Everybody Needs Somebody To Love / Down Home Girl / You Can't Catch Me / Heart of Stone / What a Shame / Mona (I Need you Baby) // Down the Road Apiece / Off the Hook / Pain in My Heart / Oh Baby (We Got a Good Thing Goin') / Little Red Rooster / Surprise, Surprise NB: To duplicate, take UK LP "No. 2", delete tracks 4,6,8,9,12, and add "Mona" (from first UK LP), "Heart of Stone" and "Oh Baby" (UK version of "Out of Our Heads"), "Little Red Rooster" (UK "High Tide and Green Grass"), and "Surprise, Surprise" (a flipside). Track 1 claims to be 2:57 on the CD, but is actually 5:00, except on the correct Jap. issue. Got LIVE if you want it! (EP) (11-Jun-1965) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PROD: Oldham/Impact/Arr. Stones We Want the Stones / Everybody Needs Somebody To Love / Pain in My Heart / Route 66 // I'm Moving On / I'm Alright NB: Vinyl rereleased 1982; all tracks are on German compilations "Rest of the Best", "Collectors Only", and "Legends of Rock" (vinyl only, all 3 out of print; "LoR" track listing is inaccurate - entire EP is definitely included in toto); Tracks 4 and 5 can be found on "December's Children"; track 6 is on US version of "Out of Our Heads"; Out of Our Heads (30-Jul-1965) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones Mercy Mercy / Hitch Hike / The Last Time / That's How Strong My Love Is / Good Times / I'm Alright // Satisfaction / Cry To Me / The Under Assistant West Coast Promotion Man / Play With Fire / The Spider and the Fly / One More Try NB: Features "I'm Alright" from the UK EP "Got Live if you want It". To duplicate using UK releases, use also the UK version of "Out of Our Heads"; the singles "Satisfaction", "The Last Time", and "Play With Fire"; "One More Try" (found on the 1971 UK compilation "Stone Age"); and "Spider and the Fly" (flipside to the UK "Satisfaction" single) Out of Our Heads (24-Sep-1965) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones She Said Yeah / Mercy Mercy / Hitch-Hike / That's How Strong My Love Is / Good Times / Gotta Get Away // Talkin 'Bout You / Cry To Me / Oh Baby (We Got a Good Thing Goin') / Heart of Stone / The Underassistant West Coast Promotion Man / I'm Free NB: To duplicate this UK issue, Americans need "She Said Yeah", "Gotta Get Away", "Talkin About You", "I'm Free" (all from "December's Children"), "Heart of Stone" and "Oh Baby" (from "Now!"), and the US "Out of Our Heads" December's Children (04-Dec-1965) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones She Said Yeah / Talkin' About You / You Better Move On / Look What You've Done / The Singer not the Song / Route 66 // Get Off of My Cloud / I'm Free / As Tears Go By / Gotta Get Away / Blue Turns To Grey / I'm Moving On NB: Tracks 6 & 12 are taken from the UK "Got LIVE if You Want It" EP; To duplicate, Britons can find tracks 1,2,8, and 10 on the UK version of "Out of Our Heads". Compilations, singles, or buying the US CD outright are the only way to cull tracks 3,4,5,7,9,11; German CD based on mono version of old US LP lineup. Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass) (02-Apr-1966) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones Satisfaction / The Last Time / As Tears Go By / Time Is on My Side / It's All Over Now / Tell Me // 19th Nervous Breakdown / Heart of Stone / Get Off of My Cloud / Not Fade Away / Good Times, Bad Times / Play With Fire NB: compilation Aftermath (15-Apr-1966) >>>>>>>>> PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones Mother's Little Helper / Stupid Girl / Lady Jane / Under My Thumb / Doncha Bother Me / Goin' Home // Flight 505 / High and Dry / Out of Time / It's Not Easy / I Am Waiting / Take it or Leave It / Think / What To Do NB: To duplicate this Euro-config, Americans need "Mother's Little Helper","Take It or Leave It", "Lady Jane", "Out of Time" (all found on US compilation "Flowers"), and "What To Do" (from the double-disc "More Hot Rocks"); for the correct, long version of "Out of Time", (5:36) the only US release was the vinyl Mobile Fidelity box set in 1984. Aftermath (02-Jul-1966) <<<<<<<<< PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones Paint It, Black / Stupid Girl / Lady Jane / Under My Thumb / Doncha Bother Me / Think // Flight 505 / High and Dry / It's Not Easy / I am Waiting / Going Home NB: "Paint It, Black" is the only title here not also on the European configuration. Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass) (04-Nov-1966) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow? / Paint It, Black / It's All Over Now / The Last Time / Heart of Stone / Not Fade Away / Come On // Satisfaction / Get Off of My Cloud / As Tears Go By / 19th Nervous Breakdown / Lady Jane / Time Is On My Side / Little Red Rooster NB: Several tracks appear on UK LongPlayer for the first time ever: US LPs had by this point already included "Little Red Rooster", "The Last Time", "Not Fade Away", "Satisfaction", "It's All Over Now", "Paint It, Black" & "Get Off of my Cloud". Got LIVE if you Want it! (10-Dec-1966) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham Under My Thumb / Get Off of My Cloud / Lady Jane / Not Fade Away / I've Been Loving You Too Long / Fortune Teller // The Last Time / 19th Nervous Breakdown / Time is On My Side / I'm Alright / Have You Seen you Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow? / Satisfaction NB: Poorly recorded; several tracks are just studio recordings with canned audience on top (esp. track 5). ABKCO's "Digital Remaster" from the mid-80s uses a different version of "Under My Thumb" from the original London release; UK customers got tracks 1,3,5, 6,9, and 12 in 1971, on the compilation "Gimme Shelter" Between the Buttons (20-Jan-1967) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones Yesterday's Papers / My Obsession / Back Street Girl / Connection / She Smiled Sweetly / Cool, Calm and Collected // All Sold Out / Please Go Home / Who's Been Sleeping Here? / Complicated / Miss Amanda Jones / Something Happened to Me Yesterday NB: Last non-compilation album produced by Andrew Loog Oldham; US release can be duplicated by starting with this, and adding singles "Let's Spend the Night Together" and "Ruby Tuesday", and dropping tracks 8 and 3. Between the Buttons (11-Feb-1967) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones Let's Spend the Night Together / Yesterday's Papers / Ruby Tuesday / Connection / She Smiled Sweetly / Cool, Calm, and Collected // All Sold Out / My Obsession / Who's Been Sleeping Here? / Complicated / Miss Amanda Jones / Something Happened to Me Yesterday NB: last album produced by Oldham; to get UK release, drop tracks 1, 3, and add "Please Go Home" and "Back Street Girl" (both found on"Flowers") Flowers (15-Jul-1967) <<<<<<< PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones Ruby Tuesday / Have You Seen your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow? / Let's Spend the Night Together / Lady Jane / Out Of Time / My Girl // Backstreet Girl / Please Go Home / Mother's Little Helper / Take it Or Leave It / Ride On, Baby / Sittin' on a Fence NB: A US compilation containing 3 single sides, 6 UK-version LP tracks (2 from "Between the Buttons", and 4 from "Aftermath") plus 2 tracks which remain unavailable today elsewhere on CD ("My Girl" and "Ride On Baby"). and one track ("Sittin' on a Fence") which can now be found on "Through the Past Darkly" (UK version), and also on "More Hot Rocks". Their Satanic Majesties' Request (09-Dec-1967) ================================ PROD: Rolling Stones Sing This All Together / Citadel / In Another Land / 2000 Man / Sing This All Together (see what happens) // She's a Rainbow / The Lantern / Gomper / 2000 Light Years from Home / On With the Show NB: First album not produced by Andrew Loog Oldham; 1st and only album to be produced by 'Rolling Stones'; 1st album with identical track listings on either side of the Atlantic Ocean. Last LP to have an American Mono version. Super-short "promo" versions of tracks 6 and 9 briefly appeared commercially on a US 7" rerelease with 5N-906 etched in groove. Beggar's Banquet (07-Dec-1968) ================ PROD: Jimmy Miller Sympathy For the Devil / No Expectations / Dear Doctor / Parachute Woman / Jig-Saw Puzzle // Street Fightin' Man / Prodigal Son / Stray Cat Blues / Factory Girl / Salt of the Earth NB: First album produced by Jimmy Miller. DECCA banned use of the original "toilet & graffiti" cover, which was later used on the ABKCO rerelease in 1986 on lp and CD. NB: an alternate version of "Street Fighting Man" was only on the earliest pressings of the US 7-inch. Through the Past, Darkly (Big Hits, Vol. (12-Sep-1969) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones Jumping Jack Flash / Mother's Little Helper / 2000 Light Years From Home / Let's Spend the Night Together / You Better Move On / We Love You // Street Fightin' Man / She's A Rainbow / Ruby Tuesday / Dandelion / Sittin' On a Fence / Honky Tonk Women NB: Compilation; dedicated to Brian Jones, dead two months earlier Through the Past, Darkly (Big Hits, Vol. (13-Sep-1969) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<PROD: (various) Paint It Black / Ruby Tuesday / She's a Rainbow / Jumpin' Jack Flash / Mother's Little Helper / Let's Spend the Night Together // Honky Tonk Women / Dandelion / 2000 Light Years from home / Have you Seen Your Mother Baby, Standing in the Shadow? / Street Fighting Man NB: Compilation; dedicated to Brian Jones, dead two months earlier Let it Bleed (06-Dec-1969) ============ PROD: Jimmy Miller Gimme Shelter / Love In Vain / Country Honk / Live With Me / Let It Bleed // Midnight Rambler / You Got The Silver / Monkey man / You Can't Always Get What You Want NB: first LP to feature Mick Taylor, Brian Jones' replacement; last ever Stones' record to be issued with a commercially available alternate mono version, anywhere in the world (there was a UK, but no US, mono release); first ever album to NOT have an A-side single issued Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out! (01-Sep-1970) ==================== PROD: Stones/Glyn Johns Jumpin' Jack Flash / Carol / Stray Cat Blues / Love in Vain / Midnight Rambler // Sympathy for the Devil / Live with Me / Little Queenie / Honky Tonk Women / Street Fighting Man NB: live (with generous overdubs/editing); recorded on the 1969 tour in New York City and Baltimore, MD; last non-compilation LP issued for DECCA/London/ABKCO; subsequent new Stones releases would be on Rolling Stones Records ("tongue" label) Sticky Fingers (23-Apr-1971) ============== PROD: Jimmy Miller Brown Sugar / Sway / Wild Horses / Can't You Hear Me Knockin' / You Gotta Move // Bitch / I Got the Blues / Sister Morphine / Dead Flowers / Moonlight Mile NB: Notorious 'zipper' cover, designed by Andy Warhol, was banned in Spain, where a sick "severed finger" motif was used instead, and a live "Let it Rock" replaced the objectionable "Sister Morphine". US 7" version of "Sway" (the B-side to "Wild Horses") is different. "Original packaging" rereleases on CD by Virgin in 1994 and 1999. EMI audiophile vinyl rerelease in UK in 1998. Hot Rocks 1964 - 1971 (01-Jan-1972) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< PROD: (various) Time is on My Side / Heart of Stone / Play With Fire / Satisfaction / As Tears Go By / Get Off My Cloud // Mother's Little Helper / 19th Nervous Breakdown / Paint It, Black / Under My Thumb / Ruby Tuesday / Let's Spend the Night Together // Jumping Jack Flash / Street Fighting Man / Sympathy for the Devil / Honky Tonk Women / Gimme Shelter // Midnight Rambler (Live) / You Can't Always Get What You Want / Brown Sugar / Wild Horses NB: Compilation; finally issued in Europe in 1990; German CD uses superior masters, including *true* stereo versions of "Satisfaction" and "Paint it, Black". An exremely limited 1st run of the US vinyl had alternate versions of the last two tracks, as they were originally heard in the 1970 film "Gimme Shelter". Exile On Main St. (01-May-1972) ================= PROD: Jimmy Miller Rocks Off / Rip This Joint / Hip Shake / Casino Boogie / Tumbling Dice // Sweet Virginia / Torn & Frayed / Sweet Black Angel / Loving Cup // Happy / Turd on the Run / Ventilator Blues / Just Wanna See His Face / Let It Loose // All Down the Line / Stop Breaking Down / Shine a Light / Soul Survivor NB: The only double-LP of new studio work issued by the group until 1994's "Voodoo Lounge". 20-bit digital remaster CD issued by Virgin records June, 1994. An alternate version of "All Down the Line" appears as the B-side to "Happy" on several pressing runs. "Original packaging" rerelease October, 1999. More Hot Rocks (01-Dec-1972) <<<<<<<<<<<<<< PROD: (various) Tell Me / Not Fade Away / The Last Time / It's All Over Now / Good Times Bad Times / I'm Free // Out of Time / Lady Jane / Sittin' On a Fence / Have You Seen You Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow / Dandelion / We Love You // She's a Rainbow / 2000 Light Years From Home / Child of the Moon / No Expectations / Let It Bleed // What To Do / Money / Come On / Fortune Teller / Poison Ivy / Bye Bye Johnnie / I Can't Be Satisfied / Long Long While NB: Eventually issued in Europe 1990; a compilation including previously unavailable UK flipsides and LP tracks. European CD has a different track order and a version of "Poison Ivy" STILL not out anywhere in US. Original US vinyl has a _third_ version of it. Unavailable on CD anywhere else: tracks 19, 21, 22, 23. Track 7 is short "US LP" version. Goat's Head Soup (31-Aug-1973) ================ PROD: Jimmy Miller Dancing With Mr. D / 100 Years Ago / Coming Down Again / Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker) / Angie // Silver Train / Hide Your Love / Winter / Can You Hear the Music / Star Star NB: "censored" version of "Star Star" available only on initial US vinyl pressings, distributed by WEA. 20-bit digital remaster CD issued by Virgin Records June 1994. It's Only Rock 'n' Roll (01-Oct-1974) ======================= PROD: Glimmer Twins If You Can't Rock Me / Ain't Too Proud to Beg / It's Only Rock and Roll / Till the Next Goodbye / Time Waits for No One // Luxury / Dance Little Sister / If You Really Want to Be My Friend / Short and Curlies / Fingerprint File NB: First album produced by the 'Glimmer Twins'; between-track timing on the CD noticeably "off" from the vinyl on "side one"; The B-side to the single of the title track ("Through the Lonely Nights") still appears on no compilations or CDs officially. The 20-bit digital remaster was issued by Virgin/EMI in June 1994. Metamorphosis (01-Jun-1975) <<<<<<<<<<<<< PROD: (various) Out of Time / Don't Lie To Me / Each and Everyday of the Year / Heart of Stone / I'd Much Rather be With the Boys / (Walkin' thru the) Sleepy City / Try a Little Harder // I Don't Know Why / If you Let Me / Jiving Sister Fanny / Downtown Suzie / Family / Memo From Turner / I'm Going Down NB: poorly selected compilation of outtakes from the Klein years (early sixties to 1970) Metamorphosis (uk) (01-Jun-1975) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PROD: (various) Out of Time / Don't Lie To Me / Some Things Just Stick In Your Mind / Each and Every Day of the Year / Heart of Stone / I'd Much Rather Be with the Boys / (Walkin' through the) Sleepy City / We're Wastin' Time / Try A Little Harder // I Don't Know Why / If You Let Me / Jiving Sister Fanny / Downtown Suzie / Family / Memo From Turner / I'm Going Down Made In the Shade (06-Jun-1975) ================= PROD: (various) Brown Sugar / Tumbling Dice / Happy / Dance Little Sister / Wild Horses // Angie / Bitch / It's Only Rock 'n Roll / Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker) / Rip This Joint NB: compilation; Briefly available as a CD under Sony and EMI. Virgin Records still have not put a version out on disc. Black and Blue (01-Apr-1976) ============== PROD: Glimmer Twins Hot Stuff / Hand Of Fate / Cherry Oh Baby / Memory Motel // Hey, Negrita / Melody / Fool To Cry / Crazy Mama NB: first new album released with Ron Wood as a member. 20-bit digital remaster CD, issued by Virgin/EMI 6/94, said to have one or two tracks with longer fades. Love You Live (23-Sep-1977) ============= PROD: Glimmer Twins Intro/Honky Tonk Women / If You Can't Rock Me/Get Off My Cloud / Happy / Hot Stuff / Star Star // Tumbling Dice / Fingerprint File / You Gotta Move / You Can't Always Get What You Want // Mannish Boy / Crackin' Up / Little Red Rooster / Around and Around // It's Only Rock and Roll / Brown Sugar / Jumping Jack Flash / Sympathy for the Devil NB: live double LP; recorded in Paris 1976, Toronto 1977, and several uncredited sites; another 'Warhol' cover art; dedicated to Keith Harwood, recently deceased; CD version, which was unavailable for 5 years after the band left Sony, re-emerged worldwide by the end of 1998. Some Girls (09-Jun-1978) ========== PROD: Glimmer Twins Miss You / When the Whip Comes Down / Just My Imagination / Some Girls / Lies // Far Away Eyes / Respectable / Before They Make Me Run / Beast of Burden / Shattered NB: Cover reworked due to objections of pictured celebrities, including Lucille Ball. One flipside ("Everything's Turning to Gold") and one remix ("Miss You") were later compiled on CD. There are rare "Promo" mixes for "Before they Make Me Run" and "Shattered" which are still uncompiled. 1st Stones lp preceded by a 2-year gap. Virgin/EMI CD rereleases with original packaging in 1994 and 1999. Emotional Rescue (23-Jun-1980) ================ PROD: Glimmer Twins/Kimsey (assoc.) Dance (Pt. I) / Summer Romance / Send it To Me / Let Me Go / Indian Girl // Where the Boys Go / Down in the Hole / Emotional Rescue / She's So Cold / All About You NB: Early copies had a very large, color 'thermo' poster, also found in the special limited edition Virgin/EMI CD, June 1994. "Promo" edits of "Emotional Rescue" and "She's So Cold" (latter has no line saying "God Damn Cold") are still not compiled on any CD. Sucking in the Seventies (12-Mar-1981) ======================== PROD: Glimmer Twins Shattered / Everything Is Turning to Gold / Hot Stuff (version) / Time Waits For No One (version) / Fool To Cry (version) // Mannish Boy (version) / When the Whip Comes Down (live) / If I was a Dancer (Dance Pt. 2) / Crazy Mama (version) / Beast of Burden (version) NB: Compilation featuring six single edits, a B-side, and 2 previously unreleased goodies (tracks 7 and 8). A separate Promo 12" single has an instrumental version of "If I was a Dancer". Only "Shattered" is issued here as found on its original LP incarnation. Available on CD under Sony, Virgin has no plans to release this compilation. Tattoo You (27-Aug-1981) ========== PROD: Glimmer Twins Start Me Up / Hang Fire / Slave / Little T & A / Black Limousine / Neighbours // Worried About You / Tops / Heaven / No Use in Crying / Waiting On a Friend NB: featured songs in the can from as far back as 1973. Last Stones' studio LP to be preceded by less than a two-year gap. 20-bit digital remaster CD issued by Virgin/EMI June 1994 has a significantly different version of track 3 ("Slave"). The German 1983 release on CD (EMI) is the first-ever CD issued by The Rolling Stones. Still Life (American Concert 1981) (01-Jun-1982) ================================== PROD: Glimmer Twins Intro (Take the A-Train) / Under My Thumb / Let's Spend the Night Together / Shattered / Twenty Flight Rock / Going to a Go-Go // Let Me Go / Time Is On My Side / Just My Imagination / Start Me Up / Satisfaction (outro: "Star Spangled Banner") NB: live album from the US tour in '81; their first-ever US CD (issued by mistake in 1984). "Beast of Burden (live)", issued only as a flipside to "Going to a Go-Go", later appeared on the 1990 CD "Collectibles". Enjoyed a second CD release in 1998 after being unavailable for 5 years. Undercover (01-Nov-1983) ========== PROD: Glimmer Twins/Chris Kimsey Undercover of the Night / She Was Hot / Tie You Up (The Pain of Love) / Wanna Hold You / Feel On Baby // Too Much Blood / Pretty Beat Up / Too Tough / All the Way Down / It Must Be Hell NB: "short" version of "Wanna Hold You" available in US only on initial vinyl pressings distributed by WEA, and in Germany and Japan on EMI CDs. As of CBS reissue, the track seems to have disappeared. One flipside ("Think I'm Going Mad", B-side to "She Was Hot") is still "uncompiled". Rewind (lp) (01-Jun-1984) >>>>>>>>>>> PROD: (various) Brown Sugar / Undercover of the Night / Start Me Up / Tumbling Dice / It's Only Rock 'n' Roll / She's So Cold // Miss You / Beast of Burden / Fool To Cry / Waiting on A Friend / Angie / Respectable NB: compilation - UK issue is missing "Hang Fire" from its American counterpart, but includes "Respectable" and "She's So Cold". Rewind (lp) (01-Jul-1984) <<<<<<<<<<< PROD: (various) Miss You / Brown Sugar / Undercover of the Night / Start Me Up / Tumbling Dice / Hang Fire // Emotional Rescue / Beast of Burden / Fool To Cry / Waiting on a Friend / Angie NB: compilation. Note different track listing from CD, and the European version of the lp, which had "She's So Cold" and "Respectable", but left out "Hang Fire". Dirty Work (21-Mar-1986) ========== PROD: Steve Lillywhite/Glimmer Twins One Hit (to the Body) / Fight / Harlem Shuffle / Hold Back / Too Rude // Winning Ugly / Back To Zero / Dirty Work / Had It With You / Sleep Tonight NB: Dedicated to recently deceased Ian Stewart; check out "fadeout" at end of album. Rewind (CD) (01-Dec-1986) =========== PROD: (various) Miss You / Brown Sugar / Undercover of the Night / Start Me Up / Tumbling Dice / Hang Fire / It's Only Rock'n'Roll / Emotional Rescue / Beast of Burden / Fool To Cry / Waiting on a Friend / Angie / Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker) NB: compilation (adds "Heartbreaker" and "It's Only Rock and Roll" to the American LP configuration); A German CBS reissue on vinyl in 1990 (450199-1) uses this CD-based song lineup. The London Years (01-Aug-1989) ================ PROD: (various) (Disc 1) Come On/ I Want To Be Loved/ I Wanna Be Your Man/ Stoned/ Not Fade Away/ Little By Little/ It's All Over Now/ Good Times, Bad Times/ Tell Me/ I Just Want To Make Love To You/ Time Is On My Side/ Congratulations/ Little Red Rooster/ Off The Hook/ Heart Of Stone/ What A Shame/ The Last Time/ Play With Fire/ Satisfaction/ The Under Assistant West Coast Promotion Man/ The Spider and the Fly/ Get Off Of My Cloud/ I'm Free/ The Singer Not the Song/ As Tears Go By (Disc 2) Gotta Get Away / 19th Nervous Breakdown / Sad Day / Paint It, Black / Stupid Girl / Long Long While / Mother's Little Helper / Lady Jane / Have You Seen You Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow? / Who's Driving Your Plane / Let's Spend the Night Together / Ruby Tuesday / We Love You / Dandelion / She's A Rainbow / 2000 Light Years From Home / In Another Land / The Lantern / Jumpin' Jack Flash / Child of the Moon (Disc 3) Street Fighting Man / No Expectations / Surprise Surprise / Honky Tonk Women / You Can't Always Get What You Want / Memo From Turner / Brown Sugar / Wild Horses / I Don't Know Why / Try A Little Harder / Out Of Time / Jiving Sister Fanny / Sympathy For the Devil NB: Compilation; features most of the singles and flipsides released under DECCA/ABKCO. Heavy overlap with the 1972 compilations "Hot Rocks" (This set has all HR's titles but 3, and the "You Can't Always Get What You Want" found here is not the same) and "More Hot Rocks" (17 of MHR's 25 tracks are found here.) On CD here and nowhere else: 4 "Metamorphosis" single sides; three early sides ("I Wanna Be Your Man", "I Want to Be Loved", and "Stoned"); the single version (no choir) of "You Can't Always Get What You Want"; and "Sad Day". The 'Performance' soundtrack version of "Memo from Turner" was previously not a 'Rolling Stones' title in the States. Steel Wheels (28-Aug-1989) ============ PROD: Chris Kimsey / Glimmer Twins Sad Sad Sad / Mixed Emotions / Terrifying / Hold on to Your Hat / Hearts For Sale / Blinded By Love // Rock and a Hard Place / Can't Be Seen / Almost Hear You Sigh / Continental Drift / Break the Spell / Slipping Away NB: three flipsides from this album: seek out "Cook Cook Blues" ("Rock and a Hard Place"), "Fancyman Blues" ("Mixed Emotions"), and "Wish I'd Never Met You" ("Terrifying"), or get all three on the 1990 CD compilation entitled "Collectibles". First LP to be preceded by a 3-year gap. Collector's Edition/Collectibles (01-Jun-1990) ================================ PROD: (various) Rock and a Hard Place (version) / Miss You (12" single) / Cook Cook Blues / Everything Is Turning to Gold / Winning Ugly (remix) / Beast of Burden (live) / Fancyman Blues / Harlem Shuffle (London Mix) / Wish I'd Never Met You / Mixed Emotions (remix) NB: included with either the "Collection 1971-1990" box set under CBS, or the "Flashpoint" special edition double-pak issued in the US (where it uses the name "Collectibles") Flashpoint (CD) (02-Apr-1991) ================ PROD: Chris Kimsey / Glimmer Twins Continental Drift / Start Me Up / Sad Sad Sad / Miss You / Rock and a Hard Place / Ruby Tuesday / You Can't Always Get What You Want / Factory Girl / Can't Be Seen / Little Red Rooster / Paint it Black / Sympathy For the Devil / Brown Sugar / Jumpin' Jack Flash / Satisfaction / Highwire / Sex Drive NB: Tracks 5 and 9 were not on vinyl version. CD was out of print for 5 years, after the band left Sony. It re-emerged in 1998 from Virgin. Flashpoint (lp) (02-Apr-1991) ================ PROD: Chris Kimsey / Glimmer Twins Continental Drift / Start Me Up / Sad Sad Sad / Miss You / Ruby Tueday / You Can't Always Get What You Want / Factory Girl / Little Red Rooster // Paint It Black / Sympathy For the Devil / Brown Sugar / Jumpin' Jack Flash / Satisfaction / Highwire / Sex Drive NB: 14 live + 2 new studio tracks (12+2 on vinyl); first time there was a simultaneous release of different media with different track lineups; seven live songs from the same tour (1989-1990) were released as flipsides to singles from this album. (see list at bottom of document). Jump Back - The Best of the Rolling Ston (22-Nov-1993) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PROD: (various) Start Me Up / Brown Sugar / Harlem Shuffle / It's Only Rock 'n' Roll / Mixed Emotions / Angie / Tumbling Dice / Fool To Cry / Rock and a Hard Place / Miss You / Hot Stuff / Emotional Rescue / Respectable / Beast of Burden / Waiting On a Friend / Wild horses / Bitch / Undercover of the Night NB: Compilation; with 20-bit digital remastering, this is the first Stones' release on Virgin records (Keith's solo label since 1988) Voodoo Lounge (CD) (12-Jul-1994) ================== PROD: Don Was/Glimmer Twins Love Is Strong / You Got Me Rocking / Sparks Will Fly / The Worst / New Faces / Moon Is Up / Out of Tears / I Go Wild / Brand New Car / Sweethearts Together / Suck on the Jugular / Blinded by Rainbows / Baby Break it Down / Thru and Thru / Mean Disposition NB: Release date puts this a month shy of being first Stones' album with a 5-year delay. Flipsides include "The Storm", "So Young", "Jump On Top of Me" and "I'm Gonna Drive". Track 15 ("Mean Disposition") is not on non-CD media. First new studio album to have different track listings on different media. Voodoo Lounge (lp) (12-Jul-1994) ================== PROD: Don Was/Glimmer Twins Love Is Strong / You Got Me Rocking / Sparks Will Fly // The Worst / New Faces / Moon Is Up / Out of Tears // I Go Wild / Brand New Car / Sweethearts Together / Suck on the Jugular // Blinded by Rainbows / Baby Break it Down / Thru and Thru NB: Release date fell one month shy of being the first Stones' album with a 5-year delay. Flipsides: "The Storm", "So Young", "Jump On Top of Me" and "I'm Gonna Drive" (see bottom). CD version is the only format with a 15th track, "Mean Disposition". First new studio album to feature different tracks on diff. media. Stripped (14-Nov-1995) ======== PROD: Don Was/Glimmer Twins Street Fightin' Man / Like a Rolling Stone / Not Fade Away / Shine A Light // The Spider and the Fly / I'm Free / Wild Horses // Let it Bleed / Dead Flowers / Slipping Away / Angie // Love In Vain / Sweet Virginia / Little Baby NB: Special "Multimedia" portion of CD features QuickTime video of acoustic and backstage jams. Requires computer hardware (& proper CD-ROM models) which can recognize the CD-Plus disk format. Five live songs from 1995 tour ("Tumbling Dice","Black Limousine", "Gimme Shelter","All Down the Line","Live with Me") released as flips on two Euro. CD singles. Rock and Roll Circus (14-Oct-1996) ==================== PROD: Miller/Jody Klein/Lenne Allik Song for Jeffrey (Jethro Tull) / A Quick One (The Who) / Ain't That a Lot of Love (Taj Mahal) / Something Better (Marianne Faithfull) / Yer Blues (Dirty Mac) / Whole Lotta Yoko (Yoko Ono, Ivry Gitlis, and the Dirty Mac) / Jumping Jack Flash / Parachute Woman / No Expectations / You Can't Always Get What You Want / Sympathy for the Devil / Salt of the Earth NB: A 1996 release, despite the 1995 copyright info: Soundtrack disc to the December '68 65-minute TV show which came out on home video simultaneously. Keith Richards is bassist for the "Dirty Mac", and the Stones only contribute the last six tracks. "Salt of the Earth" is live vocals from Jagger, Richards, and others, over a taped backing track. Bridges To Babylon (30-Sep-1997) ================== PROD: (various) Flip The Switch / Anybody Seen My Baby / Lowdown / Already Over Me / Gun Face / You Don't Have to Mean It / Out of Control / Saint Of Me / Might As Well Get Juiced / Always Suffering / Too Tight / Thief in the Night / How Can I Stop NB: Largest cast of producers yet for a new studio album. Keith sings lead for an unprecedented three tracks. No commercially available lead-off single in the US, although track 2 was the initial video internationally. One flipside emerged: "Any Way You Look At It", from "Saint Of Me". No Security (03-Nov-1998) =========== PROD: The Glimmer Twins Intro / You Got Me Rocking / Gimme Shelter / Flip The Switch / Memory Motel / Corinna / Saint Of Me / Waiting On A Friend / Sister Morphine / Live With Me / Respectable / Thief In The Night / The Last Time / Out Of Control NB: live disc from 1997-1998 tour; guest appearances from Dave Matthews ("Memory Motel"), Joshua Redman ("Waiting On A Friend"), and Taj Mahal ("Corinna"). Japanese CD issued with bonus track: "I Just Want to Make Love To You" ======================== CDs, CDs, CDs ========================= Who issues them? At any one time, legitimate CDs from the Rolling Stones (i.e., CDs the Rolling Stones released under contract, and not the "official but unauthorized" variety of CDs widely issued in Europe in the 1980s and early '90s) are issued by only two going concerns: ABKCO [This company, owned by Allen Klein, has the rights to all Rolling Stones recordings originally issued up to and including the year 1970. It also owns the publishing on all Rolling Stones compositions up to and including 1971's "Sticky Fingers", plus a handful of songs from 1972's "Exile on Main Street". ABKCO's rights apparently extend to at least the 1996 release of "Rock and Roll Circus", a previously shelved 1968 performance. Typically, subcontractors such as London or Polydor are the actual record label on which Stones recordings are issued.] or "The Rolling Stones" [The Rolling Stones own all of their post-1970 recordings, and subcontractors, such as EMI, Sony, Atlantic, Virgin, etc. have been utilized over the years to get the discs and records to market. The records/discs typically say "Rolling Stones Records, distributed by [such-and-such a company]". although as of "Voodoo Lounge", and the 1994 Virgin rereleases, the Stones' discs really are on Virgin Records, and there's no sign of "Rolling Stones Records" to be found anywhere.] Since "The Rolling Stones" own almost all of their post-1970 "recordings", what they can do is license the recordings for release on their current label, whatever it may be, and take the recordings with them when the record company contract expires. This would explain the variety of companies you may see issuing post-1970 CDs by the Rolling Stones in your local used CD store. (Note for American releases: American Stones CDs from this era were, up until 1993, and with only one WEA exception, issued only by Sony/CBS, who signed the Rolling Stones worldwide in 1984. One may also find European or Japanese CDs from the post-ABKCO era issued by EMI, the Rolling Stones' label in much of the world from 1977 to 1984.) When did they come out? The first Rolling Stones CD ever issued was 'Tattoo You', in Europe by EMI in 1983. In the States, it is "Still Life", mistakenly released in 1984 by WEA, the Stones' American label at the time. American Stones CDs did not officially appear until 1986, when Sony/CBS started issuing the post-1970 discs it had the rights to, and ABKCO began unleashing its cache of 1960s recordings on disc in the States as it had been doing since 1984 in Europe. What are they like? The release of CDs did not freeze in stone (heh heh) any particular version of a song, or album, or Stones recording career overview. Indeed, it exacerbated a long-standing problem where different issues of a Stones album have literally different tracks on them, as was the case in the early 60s; or where discernibly different versions of a single song may be on different issues of an album, a situation still happening 20 years on, in 1983, with the release of 'Undercover', and its two distinct versions of the song "Wanna Hold You". Even when a CD release has two different versions of a song (as in the interesting case of "Poison Ivy" from the compilation "More Hot Rocks"), it may still be the case that a particular version of a song can only be found on old vinyl. Some examples include: * a full-length version of "2120 South Michigan Avenue" found only on vinyl: the 1965 German compilation LP _Around and Around_ * the "original" live recording of "Under My Thumb" which did not make it to any post-1986 remaster of the "Got LIVE if you Want it!" album Other, more esoteric issues also exist. There are both true stereo (i.e., channel-separated stereo) and "Electronically Reprocessed" stereo versions of early 60's songs on the market. Multiple distinct versions of a single song (as many as four!) have seen official release with obvious changes, such as a missing guitar solo, an organ intro replacing a guitar, and missing percussion tracks, handclaps, or verses. Many (but not all!) of the American ABKCO CDs are considered inferior to their pre-1998 Japanese and pre-1995 European counterparts, released on the "London" label, due to a poor selection of masters. Many of the 60's tracks from the non-ABKCO CDs which people find preferable were remastered by Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs for an American box set of vinyl reissues in 1984. This deluxe set included the Stones' London Records (US) album catalogue up to and including 1972's "Hot Rocks (1964-1971)". In July 1995, the line became almost hopelessly blurred, as ABKCO decided to "streamline" its' worldwide Stones offerings. They revamped the European CD and vinyl catalogue and sold releases made from the masters which had previously produced discs only for the American market. With that decision, ABKCO effectively discontinued the "original European" pressings, which had been available on London-label CDs for nearly a decade. ABKCO hype about "remastering" on the front of these post-1995 European releases (a red-on-black banner across the bottom) should be taken with a grain of salt. These CDs and LPs are only clones of the inferior CD catalogue which had been available in the United States for many years. This sweeping policy change had a delayed impact on Polydor's operations in Japan, however. In Japan, Polydor continued, through most of 1997, to issue CDs which did not conform to the "worldwide" ABKCO standard. The Japanese began issuing ABKCO-standard versions in 1997. Just as an informational aside, these ABKCO releases don't all sound like utter crap. The deficits are really only a problem on the early tracks from their first three years, up through 1967. Later ABKCO-era releases such as "Beggar's Banquet" and "Let It Bleed" are considered fine, and finding improved conditions for these albums are a matter of religious fervor and having unlimited cash to spend on such rarities as the Mono version of these albums. In any case, it is often true that rarities are interesting for their rarity alone, so buyer beware. What do I need minimally for a "complete" Rolling Stones collection on CD? As it stands now, there is no way to have a complete Rolling Stones' collection without having at least some old vinyl records. With the 1996 release of "The Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus", it is also impossible to have a complete set of Rolling Stones recordings on vinyl, as there was no vinyl release of "Rock and Roll Circus". As this applies to ABKCO, there are 22 song _titles_ never issued on CD at all, and 12 of those come from the 1975 compilation "Metamorphosis", which can be found on several illegitimate CD releases. There are several previously released and available _versions_ of other titles which yet to see the light of laser. As it applies to Rolling Stones Records (the releases from 1971 through 1991) there are four _titles_ still not ever released on CD: one of those appeared only on a magazine flexi-disc in 1972, and two others were flipsides to 7" singles. There are more than a dozen variations of already released RSR-era titles (i.e., promo/mono edits or dance remixes) titles which themselves are not on CD. The ABKCO years: When wondering "which version" of an ABKCO CD to buy, consider recommendations on sound quality from friends, and remember, if you are trying to accomplish a complete collection of what IS available from the Stones on CD, even though that's a subset of the officially released Stones canon, no collection which does not mix the commonly available ABKCO catalogue (the "US" CDs) and the pre-1998 Japanese/pre-1995 European discs will do it for you, Because... no "US" CD has, for example, the five-minute-plus version of "Out of Time" (from "Aftermath"), the full-length "Tell Me" (from the first album) or true stereo versions of several early tracks, even ones that were available in true stereo on American vinyl previously (such as "Paint It, Black"). And... a number of songs never appeared on "UK" albums in the 60s, but exclusively on either American LPs or mid-70s UK compilations. Those mid-70s compilations have stayed out of print in this age of the compact disc, and the pre-1995 European CDs ape the lineups of the European album releases from the 60s. The comments on the individual albums, listed above in the detailed discography, provide a complete overview of these "orphan" tracks. For all the faults of the "US lineup" of album releases, it is a lineup which did end up offering the more complete (if slightly out of order) overview of the Stones' recording career. Buying strictly from the current "American" CD (ABKCO) lineup will give you a complete collection of pre-1971 titles which are available on official CD. But, you have to buy them _all_ (including the 3-disc "London Years" box set, which has nearly a dozen tracks unavailable anywhere else on CD), and you only get to economize by leaving out the double-disc "Hot Rocks (1964-1971)" and the two single-disc "Big Hits" compilations: buy everthing else, and only then do these three CD titles finally become superfluous. After all this CD collecting, you still will not have the following pre-1971 titles: * the six vinyl-only tracks which were released in Germany only ("I've been Loving You Too Long (studio)", "Con le Mie Lacrime", "Tell Me Baby, How Many More Times", "Memphis Tennessee", "Da Doo Ron Ron" and "Cocksucker Blues") * the first three tracks from the 1965 EP "Got Live if You Want it!" (although one of these tracks is just a restless crowd chanting "We Want the Stones!", called, appropriately enough, "We want the Stones!") * the 12 tracks from the UK version of the 1975 compilation _Metamorphosis_ which never made it to the _London Years_ box. So far, the only non-bootleg CD source of ANY tracks from _Metamorphosis_ is the _London Years_ box, and it only provides four of that album's 16 tracks. The post-ABKCO years: Certain later (post-1970) albums were notoriously mistreated in their switch to digital, and with the advent of 20-bit mastering technology, Virgin Records reissued 20-bit remasters of the Rolling Stones' studio output from "Sticky Fingers" (1971) to "Steel Wheels" (1989) (with eight of these titles available in limited edition commemmorative packaging) in June 1994. Some people report (trivially) longer fades on some of the tracks on these Virgin remasters, raising the spectre of "different versions" all over again, and forcing one to track down CBS-issue CDs in order to have a complete set of CD-available _versions_. At this point, the future on CD of the three compilations originally issued by "Rolling Stones Records" between 1975 and 1984 is up in the air. All of these were issued on CD at some point after 1984 by CBS but are now out of print. Of the three compilations, only the single-disc compilation "Sucking in the Seventies" has material which can't be culled from other currently available CD sources. Three live albums from the RSR years which had been out of print for five years ("Love You Live", "Still Life", and "Flashpoint") began reappearing in Japan and Europe in 1998. Shortly thereafter, American versions came on the market. About two dozen post-ABKCO tracks have never been issued on CD, although only four of them ("Let it Rock", "Exile on Main Street Blues", "Through the Lonely Nights", and "Think I'm Going Mad") are actually distinct performances. For the most part, the body of post-ABKCO work still not on CD is relegated to 12" "dance" remixes and mono/promo edits of singles. The value of these is set in the hearts/minds of individual collectors. What about stereo versions of early Stones tracks? (Thanks to Chris M. [ChrisM42@aol.com] for this section, and to Glen Cassan and Luke Pacholski for pointing out where changes were appropriate.) "Aftermath", released in the US in June 1966, was the first American Stones' stereo album where some true stereo versions actually reported for duty, and which were not the 'Electronically Reprocessed' Stereo, of American predecessors. In the age of the CD, some of the material originally issued before the release of "Aftermath" emerged, scattershot fashion, in _true_ Stereo, on compact disc. This material is valuable not just for its curiosity value but because of the extremely high fidelity of the music, and the fact that much of it was never issued in America. Until the end of 1997, it was Japanese-issued CDs which provided the bulk of the "early Stereo" content. At that point, Japanese CDs purchased factory-fresh stopped delivering reliably the versions itemized in the following paragraphs. Any comments about stereo versions of early material on Japanese CDs should strictly be interpreted to mean the discs which were on the market through much of 1997. The Japanese CD "Rolling Stones No. 2" had true stereo on "Time Is On My Side", "What A Shame" (Charlie hammers the right channel!), "Down The Road Apiece" and "I Can't Be Satisfied", with the remaining tracks in mono. There was a Japanese issue of "The Rolling Stones, Now!" with a stereo "Heart of Stone", but, faithful to the track listing of its' original LP counterpart, it included neither "Time Is On My Side" nor "I Can't Be Satisfied". It did, however, include true stereo of "What a Shame" and "Down the Road Apiece" , tracks which are also found on "No.2". The "American"/ABKCO release of "Now!" duplicates the stereo tracks which were on the Japanese "Now!". "Now!" is the only "American"/ABKCO CD to include true stereo versions of any pre-"Aftermath" material. (Note also that the versions of track 1, "Everybody Needs Somebody..." are NOT identical on the two discs, and that the Japanese "Now!" has the short 3-minute version.) To summarize to this point: The Japanese "No. 2" had 4 stereo tracks, and any country's version of "Now!" has two of those 4, plus a third, bringing the total number of early stereo tracks to 5 so far. On the 1965 title "December's Children", one finds a very high-fidelity (but alas, not true stereo) "Look What You've Done". The Japanese issue of "December's" was once thought to have a true stereo of both that song and "Get Off My Cloud", but the currently sold Japanese release definitely does not. The UK track listing of the 1966 greatest-hits compilation album "High Tide and Green Grass" was used for a Japanese CD reissue which had true stereo on "It's All Over Now", "Heart of Stone", and "Time is on my Side". This same "High Tide" CD inexplicably used the 'electronically reprocessed stereo' version of "Get Off My Cloud", even though a true stereo of "GOMC" was available, and issued on other disc titles. Then we come to the Japanese CD versions of the 1972 titles "Hot Rocks" and "More Hot Rocks". These two sets were issued overseas as four separate discs: "Hot Rocks 1", "Hot Rocks 2", "More Hot Rocks 1", "More Hot Rocks 2". All combined, they provided most of the tracks mentioned above. Note the 3 exceptions: "Look What You've Done" "What A Shame" "Down the Road Apiece". These 3 tracks are on neither "Hot Rocks" nor "More Hot Rocks". (If you are seriously considering buying only one of the Japanese "More Hot Rocks" discs, keep in mind that the Japanese release of it is not a song-for-song matchup of their ABKCO counterpart discs. No tracks are missing, but the order and configuration of songs is different. Note also that at some point late in 1997, the Japanese catalogue was overhauled, and made from the mono/crappy masters the rest of the world's catalogues had been subject to since 1995.) All of "Hot Rocks 2" is in stereo (no big deal for the most part, although some find that the true stereo tracks "Honky Tonk Woman" and "Street Fightin' Man" are very desirable.) and on "Hot Rocks 1", mono is the exception and not the rule. The pre-"Aftermath" stereo tracks on "HR1" included "Time Is On My Side", "Heart Of Stone", "Play With Fire", "Satisfaction", "Get Off My Cloud", "Paint It, Black" and "Mother's Little Helper". "More Hot Rocks 1" has true stereo for both "It's All Over Now" and the shorter, "American" version of the track "Out of Time" (3:50). "More Hot Rocks 2" rounds out our list of pre-June,1966 stereo with "What To Do" and "I Can't Be Satisfied". "The Last Time", "19th Nervous Breakdown", and "As Tears Go By" have never been _officially_ released in Stereo, but are available on 'unauthorized' (some would say "bootleg") CDs, including one title called, helpfully, "In Stereo" (Chapter One, 25203). Be forewarned, however: there's no bootleg CD with stereo versions which has received universal praise for either fidelity or separation. Ironically, the real selling point of the stereo tracks is the rich fidelity, so YMMV. ========================Flipsides and oddities========================= The following selections appeared on the 1980 German Compilation LP called "For Collector's Only" [sic], and the 1984 4 LP German boxed set "The Rest of the Best", but nowhere on the albums listed above for the USA or UK. Since the deletion of these two compilations, these tracks remain unavailable officially. Items marked "F" are available on "For Collector's Only", and "B", the German box. (Note that the first and sixth tracks are glorified bootlegs, the third and fourth are not _really_ the Rolling Stones, but rather the "Andrew Loog Oldham Orchestra", and that "For Collectors Only" would get you the two remaining tracks.) B "Tell Me Baby, How Many Times" recorded Chicago, June 1964 BF "I've Been Loving You too Long" recorded Los Angeles, May 1965 B "Da Doo Ron Ron" Andrew Loog Oldham Orchestra, 1964 B "Memphis Tennessee" "" "" BF "Con le Mie Lacrime" Italian "As Tears Go By", Spring '66 B "Cocksucker Blues" Olympic Studios, 1970 (limited edition 7" bonus single found _only_ w/ Sept. '84 issue of the box; deleted in later issues.) The following titles/versions have been officially released by the Rolling Stones for public consumption at some point, intentionally or not, but have yet to appear on any LP or compilation released in the States or the UK. By "officially released", we mean that they were not _exclusively_ found on promotional items, even if (as in the case with "Exile on Main Street Blues") 'release' meant nothing more than the appearance on a flexi-disc issued with a magazine, and not available for separate purchase. 1968 "Street Fightin' Man" Notorious 1st issue of the US single had not only a politically charged (and banned) picture sleeve of a riot scene, but an alternate musical version which disappeared as well. The rare single has a different vocal track and more piano than the familiar "Beggar's Banguet" version. One of the priciest of all Stones rarities. Hand-written matrix number on the final groove is XDR-43220A X, with the number 14939 written in mirror image above it. This version also showed up on an orange-label London Records promo single with the same matrix number. 1971 "Let It Rock" - third track on UK "Brown Sugar" single - replaced "Sister Morphine" on the Spanish version of the LP "Sticky Fingers" - This live track from 1971 is widely bootlegged along with the remainder of the Leeds University show from which it is taken. 1971 "Sway" This 3:25 version was the B-side to original "Wild Horses" 7" single in the States. 1972 "Exile on Main Street Blues" promotional flexi-disc, included w/purchase of UK magazine. 1972 "All Down the Line" B-side to the single "Happy", this is a different version from the LP's. This pressing of the single was eventually discontinued. 1974 "Through the Lonely Nights" flipside to "It's Only Rock'n'Roll" 7" 45 1978+ "She's a Rainbow"/"2000 Light Years From Home" The 1967 US 7" promo held edited versions of these two songs, which eventually reappeared, after 1978, on a regular-issue London Records US single by mistake. The 1978 label is "Sunset" style, and etched into closing groove of single is the matrix number 5N-906. 1984 "Think I'm Going Mad" flipside to "She Was Hot" 7" 45 1990 The "Flashpoint" sides. A number of live performances recorded on the 1989-1990 tours were used as flipsides to singles pulled off the live album "Flashpoint". These include: "2000 Light Years from Home" (Highwire US7", UK CD single "A") "Undercover of the Night" (Sexdrive US7", Ruby Tueday UK CD single "A") "Play With Fire" (Ruby Tuesday 7", UK CD single "A") "I Just Wanna Make Love To You" (Highwire UK12", UK CD single "A") "Tumbling Dice" (Jumpin' JF 7", Benelux CD single) "Street Fightin' Man" (Benelux CD single [same as above] ) "Harlem Shuffle" (Ruby Tuesday UK CD single "B") This list does not pretend to exhaust your methods of getting the tracks, it just offers suggestions for finding them. 1993 "Gimme Shelter (live)" - (cassette only, UK only) - issued as part of a benefit project for the homeless in 1993, in which various artists cover the song, the Stones' contribution was a live, "Urban Wheels" version. This version does appear on a CD, but it is the Promo. 1994 "The Storm" (Flipside of "Love Is Strong" - found on US cassette, CD single, and 7" vinyl of "LIS". Also on the 4-track European CD VSCDT1503, and a Limited Edition, numbered, 7" UK single.) 1994 "So Young" (Found on European "Love Is Strong" CD listed immediately above, and the US CD single for "Out of Tears".) 1994 "Jump On Top of Me" (Found on European CD [VSCDG 1518], cassette [VST 1518] and Ltd. edition 7" UK single of "You Got me Rocking", but NOT on the UK 12" vinyl single, which has 3 remixes of YGMR only. In the States, it's found on CD single V25H-38468, cassette single, and 12" single. Also, this is on the full-length soundtrack CD to Robert Altman's 1994 film "Pret-a-Porter". It is also on the "Voodoo Lounge CD-ROM", an interactive computer disc released in November 1995, as one of four choices for musical accompaniment to the "Screen Raver".) 1994 "I'm Gonna Drive" (flipside of "Out of Tears", found on US Cassette single 4km-38459, the US CD single V25H-38459, the US 7" NR-38459, and in the UK on the 7" single and CD single.) 1995 "I Go Wild (live)" (found on US/European CD-5 of "I Go Wild"; performance is taken from the Nov. 25, 1994 show in Miami, Florida at Joe Robbie Stadium.) 1995 "Black Limousine (live)" (Track 2 on European CD-5 of "Like a Rolling Stone" [VSCDT 1562], released October 1995; also on the American "LARS" single V25F-38523; and the Japanese CD of the full-length album release, "Stripped"; Performance is from Brixton Academy in London, July 1995.) 1995 "All Down the Line (Live)" (Track 3 on European CD-5 of "Like a Rolling Stone" [VSCDT 1562], October 1995, and in November of that year on the US CD single V25F-38523) 1996 "Live With Me (live)" "Tumbling Dice (live)" "Gimme Shelter (live)" (These are tracks 2, 3, and 4 from the first European CD single issued for "Wild Horses" [VSCDT 1578]. "WH" was taken from "Stripped". "TD" is actually an edit of two versions: a rehearsal and a public performance.) This version of "Gimme Shelter" also wound up in a couple places associated with the 1998 release "Saint Of Me": the US CD5 (7243 8 38627-2-6) and CD #1 of the European double disc release (7243 8 94750 2 9). 1998 "Anyway You Look at It" Found on - the US CD5, 2-track CD single, 12" vinyl, and 7" vinyl for "Saint of Me". - the European CD2 of the 2-disc European set for "SOM". (7243-8-94796-2-1) - the European 7" picture disc single for "Saint" (7243-8-94750-7-4) 1998 "Honest I Do" Found on the soundtrack to the film "Hope Floats", this 1995 redo of a cover which appeared on their first album is from the sessions for "Stripped" at EMI-Toshiba in Japan. 1980-1998 The "remixes". While the Collectibles CD includes one remix each of several popular songs, some remixes persist without ever getting issued on any official collection: "Undercover (Extended)" (Undercover 12") "Feel On Baby (Instrumental)" ("" " ") "Too Much Blood" (several exist) (Too Much Blood 12") "Harlem Shuffle (New York mix)" (Harlem Shuffle 12") "One Hit (London Mix)" (One Hit 12") "Winning Ugly (NY Mix)" (WU Canada-only 12") "Rock and a Hard Place" (R & a HP US 12") (Oh oh hard dub mix, Bonus Beats Mix, and Dance Mix) "Terrifying (remix)" (Terrifying 12") "Sexdrive" (Club Mix, Dirty Hands Mix) (Sexdrive Euro- CD5) "Love Is Strong" (Bob Clearmountain Mix) (4th track on European CD single VSCDT1503) "Love Is Strong" (Joe the Butcher club mix, plus 5 Teddy Riley mixes - radio, extended, extended rock, dub, & instrumental) (UK CD VSCDX1503) (US 12" has all these except the radio mix, US CD has the extended and the instrumental. US 7" has the extended.) "You Got Me Rocking" (Perfecto Mix, Sexy Disco Dub Mix, and Trance Mix, last of which is on the UK and US 12" vinyl singles and US CD-5; first two are on the UK and Australian 4-track CD-5.) "Out Of Tears" (Don Was Edit, and the Bob Clearmountain Remix Edit; both found on US Cassette single 4km-38459 and US 7" NR-38459.) "Sparks Will Fly" (Radio Clean; found on VSCDT 1524, 7243 8 92711 26) Added to the European CD-5 of "Out of Tears", the big change, in the words of Michael Honig (honey@mwald5.chemie.uni-mainz.de): It sounded as if someone has added some ... ahem, "lubricant" exactly on the little holes of the cd that encode the words of the line in question: It goes something like "... I wanna <swoosh>'uck you sweet a<swoosh>" "I Go Wild" (Scott Litt remix, and Luis Vesto Straight Vocal mix) Both are on the US CD-5 for "I Go Wild", rel. April 1995 (V25H-38478); and a European CD-5 released the month after that. "Scott Litt remix" is also available on a Ltd. Edition UK 7" picture disc. "Like a Rolling Stone (Edit)" A 4:18 version of the Bob Dylan cover tune done on the November 1995 album "Stripped". Found on the European CD-5 for "LARS" [VSCDT 1562], released October 1995. "Anybody Seen My Baby?" LP Edit, Soul Solution Remix, and Armand's Rolling Steelo Mix (10:29) are on a UK CD single: 7243 8 94597 22 [VSCDT 1653]. An LP Edit (4:08) and Soul Solution Remix Edit are found on a special-edition clear vinyl numbered 7" single. A 6:01 "Bonus Roll" is on the 12" vinyl issued in Europe. ASMB remixes popped up on releases of "Saint Of Me": on CD#1 of the European double-CD, there's the "Phil Jones Remix" (4:26); and on the double-vinyl 12" of "Saint", two previously released ASMB remixes - the Bonus Roll and Armand's Rolling Steelo Mix. "Saint Of Me" A Radio Edit (4:08) appears on the European 7" picture disc (7243 8 94750-7-4) and either of the 2 CDs from the European double-CD issue. Todd Terry Extended Remix (6:00) and Deep Dish Club Mix (7:35) are both on the US CD5 (7243 8 38627-2-6) and the US vinyl 12" (7243 8 38626-1-0). Deep Dish Grunge Garage Remix (Pts. 1 and 2) is on CD2 of the European set, and both of the two European vinyl 12" releases (7243-8-94750-6-7, and the ltd. edition double-vinyl). Both of these European vinyl 12" releases offer both the Deep Dish Grunge Garage Dub (7:23) and the Deep Dish Rolling Dub (7:16). Deep Dish Grunge Dub (7:22) is on the US 12" vinyl. "Out Of Control" On the European CD5 (7243 8 95081 2 3/VSCDF 1700) and 12" vinyl (7243 8 95081 6 1/VST 1700), one finds "In Hand with Fluke" (8:27), "In Hand With Fluke Instrumental" (5:58), and "Bi-Polar At The Controls" (5:10). Additionally, the CD5 and 2-track CD both have a 3:38 Album Radio Edit. The 12" vinyl and limited edition clear CD single add "Bi-Polar's Fat Controller Mix" (5:24). The "Saber Final Mix" (5:44) appears on the limited edition single, also. A radio edit of "In Hand with Fluke" (4:30) appears on a limited edition 7" single. A double-vinyl 12" offers "In Hand wih Fluke", "In Hand with Fluke Full Length", 1971-1998 The "promos". Released to radio stations and DJ pools, promotional singles will often include a version of a record that is more amenable to commercial airplay or dance club use, by virtue of cleaned-up language, a different running time, or a hotter mix more friendly to the intended arena (AM radio play or dance clubs). Many 7" promos were issued for the Rolling Stones where one side is "Mono" and the other is "Stereo", but here we catalogue records that were more substantially altered or edited, AND did not see a public, intentional commercial release: "Dandelion"/"We Love You" (Promo 7") ("WLY" edited to 3:10 down from the usual 4:00 plus. From "Dandelion", the intro and refrains of "Dandelion" at the end are missing.) "She's a Rainbow"/"2000 Light Years from Home" (Promo 7") (released commercially by mistake in 1978 - see above.) "Wild Horses" (Promo 7") (a shorter version of the 1971 song) "It's Only Rock 'n' Roll" (shorter) (Promo 7") "Before They make Me Run" (Promo 7") "Shattered" (clocks in under 3 minutes!!) (Promo 7") "Emotional Rescue" (4:18) (Promo 7") "She's So Cold" (Promo 7") ('clean' version - lyrics have 'God damn cold' removed) "If I was a Dancer (Instrumental)" (Promo 12") "Waiting On a Friend" (more than a minute off) (Promo 7") "Undercover" (3:59) (Promo 7") "Sexdrive" (Edited Club version) (US Promo 12") "Wild Horses (Edit)" (4:07) (European Promo CD VSCDJ 1578) "Saint of Me": (Eur. white-label Todd Terry Fade (3:35) dbl. 12" vinyl) Todd Terry Tee's Freeze Dub (7:45) Todd Terry Dub #2 (7:45) "Flip the Switch (Clean Version)", (US Promo CD) "Flip the Switch (Call Out Hook)" (#1 and #2) "Out Of Control" Album Radio Edit (3:59) (Eur Promo CD VSCDXJ 1700 LC3098) Call Out Hook(0:17) (USA Promo CD DPRO 7087-6-13159-2-9) Don Was Live Remix (6:54) (all three versions on both promo discs)